One of my readers contacted me in hopes that I might be able to offer up some personal assistance. This is something I do quite often in the form of e-mail replies and forum post responses, however, I decided to do something different this evening… I felt that it’d be a nice touch to take my advice to the front page of the site. Rather than bury it in a forum response, or in an e-mail that no one but he or I will ever see, I thought maybe a few others could get some value out of my advice as well. 🙂
I spend a great deal of time in that forum on a weekly basis, but I feel like only a portion of my visitors ever venture in there. Therefore, a lot of my hard work and in-depth answers go unnoticed by many – same goes for some of my lengthy post comments. This post is an example of me working hard and smart. 🙂
At any rate, today’s post is in response to a forum thread started by a level 76 Night Elf hunter named, Slugbait. Slug may be brand new to WoW, but nevertheless he’s an enlightened individual with impeccable taste. This I’ve determined by his decision to focus on the hunter class and nothing but. 🙂
Slug’s been enjoying the whole WoW hunter experience, but he’s been a little disappointed with his DPS contribution in dungeons. Being the helpful hunter I’ve always set out to be, I’m going to try and lend my hunter brethren a hand here.
Here’s a link to Slug’s armory, which may or may not be congruent with this post depending on when you catch it. Slugbait’s still leveling, so his gear will no doubt be rotating over the next few weeks (or days rather, if Slug’s a power-leveler). Anyhow, he’s hoping that myself and some of you other helpful folks out there can get him on the right track to producing, as BRK would say…. MQoSRDPS, i.e., Massive Quantities of Sustained Ranged DPS. 🙂
Here’s Slugbait’s forum post if you want the full introduction.
Alright, well I’m going to kick off this discussion… let’s get down to business…
Slug… by the time you hit Icecrown Citadel, Ya gonna eat lightning and crap thunder..!
Gear’s not a huge concern at 76, just so long as everything has stats useful to hunters. Slugbait’s gear looks pretty good for the most part, but there are 4 pieces I’d recommend he replace sooner than later.
Painted Wooden Beads of the Beast – This necklace has strength on it – a no-no for hunters. All strength does is buff the hunter’s melee attack power… bleh. In addition to that, it’s an Outland level 65 BoE.
Reinforced Caribou-Hide Boots – These may look like pretty good hunter boots, but they have expertise rating on them. Another useless stat for hunters. It’s possible they were the best boots he could equip at the time, as they still have other good hunter stats, but now that I’m on the case, these gotta go.
Rigid Tuskring – Same story here as the boots… This ring has expertise on it, as opposed to something useful such as crit rating.
Fetish of the Fallen – This is itemized alright for hunters, but it’s a pretty weak trinket for a 76 hunter. 2 or 3 ticks of Spirit Bond are equal to the on-use effect of this trinket. There are much better trinkets available at this level.
Here are some easily obtainable upgrades that can replace the aforementioned items, and best of all… they’re free! All of these items can be had via quests.
- Hundred Tooth Necklace – This is very easy to obtain. All you have to do is run Utgarde Keep and steal 5 weapons.
- Spiked Collar of Servitude – This is a very nice neck for a 76 hunter, but it requires a bit of work to get. It’s a reward from a long series of quests that begin after you kill Pitch in Sholazar Basin. It starts here.
- Treads of the Valiant Struggle – These are very nice hunter boots and can be had at level 76 quite easily. It takes a bit of legwork to get them, but the reward is obtainable without a group. To get them, start here.
- Husk Shard Sabatons – These are even better and can be obtained just by running Azjol-Nerub. Be sure to grab this quest from Kilix the Unraveler, who happens to be just outside the entrance to Azjol-Nerub.
I suggest going with Icewalker as the boot enchant. It has tremendous stats (12 hit/12 crit), plus it can be bought at the auction house for a song.
- Ring of Foul Mojo – This is a quest reward obtainable after grabbing six history tablets from Gundrak. This is a very nice hunter ring and pretty easy to get.
- Death Knight’s Anguish – There are a handful of nice trinkets available at this level, but Death Knight’s Anguish is not only a great trinket, but it’s crazy-easy to obtain. 181 crit rating at level 76 is beast, which is what this trinket provides when procced and fully stacked. Death Knight’s Anguish is the reward from the quest that follows this one.
I almost forgot about one very important upgrade… a ranged weapon. No other upgrade he gets will have as much of an impact on his DPS as a new boomstick will. Having said that, this quest rewards a choice of bow or gun – both of which are great, depending upon what stats you need. Either one of these will do you until 80. The entire quest chain can be completed solo, but there are a few steps. I’d suggest getting going on it immediately. To get started, go to the Nesingwary Base Camp and pick up the Mastery quests. Completing those will eventually unlock this final quest which will award a nice ranged wep. 😀
While still leveling, there’s no reason to go all-out with the best gems and enchants, but I think Slug knows this. He’s got good, yet practical enchants. No sense in putting 10 stats on a green chest, right..?
For advice on gemming and enchanting, please have a look at the following guides. Hunter Gems / Hunter Enchants
Here’s the setup that Slugbait is rolling with right now…
If Slugbait wants to keep dungeoning as a Beast Master, then I’m going to recommend that he respec to something that looks more like this: 53/14/0 BM Build for a 76 hunter.
This build will be superb for leveling as well. He’s sacrificing what I consider to be a negligible amount of survivability and mana efficiency, for a huge improvement to hunter and pet DPS. He’s also a little light on hit, so we’ve put a few points into Focused Aim to sort that out.
As far as losing Invigoration goes… switching into Aspect of the Viper between pulls should be all that’s needed to keep from becoming mana-starved anyway.
I like his Glyph of the Hawk, but I’m going to recommend Glyph of Bestial Wrath over Glyph of Steady Shot. It will be more advantageous both for questing and for dungeons. Slug mentioned he was disappointed in his overall DPS contribution in dungeons. Here’s a tip:
- Cast Misdirection on the tank – very important.
- Pop Bestial Wrath just after the pull.
- Drop an Explosive Trap on the tank.
- Disengage out.
- Volley away and send those mobs to an icy grave.
That technique will provide AoE damage galore and make you look like a god for about 10 seconds. Use it when there are 3+ elite mobs.
With 3/3 Longevity and the BW Glyph, you can pull that little trick every 60 seconds (70 sec cooldown w/ 10 sec duration). Bestial Wrath also cuts down the Volley mana drain by half.
On bosses, use BW + Rapid Fire for maximum firepower. 😉
Alternative SV Build
Since Slug’s just bought his dual spec and plans to go SV, here’s my recommendation… I suggest he use a SV build for dungeons and BM for everything else. SV is great for dungeons since it packs more punch than BM, but BM is a better route to go for leveling and questing.
Here’s a Survival build for Slug to use at level 76… 0/16/51 SV build for Slug.
For glyphs I’m gonna suggest Explosive Shot and Serpent Sting. Exp Shot is a must-have and the Serp Sting I think could be argued, but I like it best for boss fights.
The SV build will produce more DPS provided he’s got his shot priority down and so-forth, but regardless, either build will be a major improvement to his current one.
Protip: Always make sure you’re attacking the same target as your tank. This will be especially important as your DPS starts to rise. The easiest way to do this is by setting your tank as the focus, then assisting him. This is best achieved by assigning a keybind to focus (via the Key Bind config), then creating a macro with /assist and keybinding it as well. I use F and G – it works great for me. 🙂 The only time you should attack a target other than the tank’s, is if one strays from the pack towards your healer and you don’t have any form of CC available and/or your tank doesn’t pick it up (i.e., sucks).
Slug’s using a Core Hound right now with his BM setup, which isn’t too bad, but I’m going to recommend a wolf. Regardless of whether or not he wants to instance as BM or SV, a wolf is where it’s at. Furious Howl FTW.
Here are the builds to use (at level 76): 19 point BM wolf build / 15 point SV wolf build
Slug’s trained Skinning and Leatherworking – two excellent professions for a hunter… exactly the same as mine I might add. 🙂 These are great professions not only because you get to craft your own armor from mats that you gather, but also because they both provide decent damage buffs. Skinning buffs crit through Master of Anatomy (~1% crit increase at 76), and Leatherworking boosts attack power (130 to be exact) by way of Fur Lining for your bracers.
Now granted these aren’t thee best DPS professions as far as the min/maxers are concerned, but we don’t care about that… What we do care about is that Slug gets his skinning maxed and his LW up to 400 (the level required to craft Fur Lining) as soon as possible. That’s cheap and easy DPS just lying on the table. 😀
Rather than re-hash what’s already been published on this site numerous times, I’ll instead just recommend some reading…
Here are some good guides on getting the most out of Beast Mastery:
and for Survival:
I highly suggest reading through the macros and Power Auras pages as well. If Slug decides to go SV, Power Auras will be a huge help.
If Slug switches up his build and acquires some of the upgrades I’ve listed, he’s going to be making the lesser classes look like slackers in no time. I’m anxious to hear the results. 🙂
I hope this post has been useful to not only Slugbait, but to some of you other up-and-coming hunters out there.
If anyone has anything to add, please leave your comments and suggestions below.
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Sorry for the late post. Work took me out of the country for a few days.
What a nice surprise to see that I was used in your “mentor” article. I am honored. It’s obvious that you put a lot of time and effort into this and I appreciate it. I wont let you down;)
I have done my best in the little time I had online recently to run down the gear and enchantments that were suggested. I think I got every one except the Trinket. It looks like I already did this quest and stupidly picked another reward.
I’m still perfecting my battle mechanics, trap selection, shot rotation, etc, but I want you to know that my dungeon dps has sky rocketed from an embarrassing 12.5 – 14.6% to anywhere from 27.4 – 35% since my respec and gear upgrades. Mana management seems to be an issue but I thinks it’s more of pilot error than anything else. I’m a bit of an adrenalin junky, and in the heat of the battle I seem to find myself frantically mashing shot buttons and burning all my mana, lol.
Anyways, i’m 4 bars into level 79 so I can almost taste victory. My current specs can be seen in the “Slug’s Armory” link above. As always, any comments are greatly appreciated.
He might find that he will get more DPS from BM for the first bit since his pet should compensate from lack of gear. My sister is a new 80 hunter with a fair number of greens, blues and some pieces she gets nothing from but she still puts up around 1.5-1.9K DPS in groups.
I’d also suggest macroing Kill Command into most of his shots. Might as well use it when it’s up – that or tie it together with Rapid Fire and trinket use (one button to rule them all). That’ll help for boss fights. I tend to mix a few other things in there too.
For assisting on pulls, I usually mark a target, MD to tank then open with multi-shot and follow up with Volley. I’m MM and better geared so you might be better off doing what Garwulf says – I just prefer to save Disengage for when really needed.
Definitely check out Garwulf’s macros – I absolutely love the Disengage+Raptor Strike+Wing Clip macro.
I’m iffy about going Wolf, it’ll increase your DPS a bit, but I’m not sure it’d out do what a TRex would do for you as BM. As SV? Yeah, definitely go Wolf.
Grats on the chopper! 😉
Thanks for your input as well. 🙂
As far as the dino vs. wolf debate goes… Blizzard dropped the ball with exotics. Devilsaurs are really only better in larger raids, where the hunter is equipping end-game gear. Wolves are pretty much top dog (no pun intended… yea right) for the majority of hunters.
Yay for helpful replies with public access!
A fun read.