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Help: need help to help guildies
June 8, 2010
9:15 pm
Porcia
Kennington Kent UK

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Hi Guys,

Just found this site and it's been a mine of information, best one I've come across.

Story so far, Got to lvl icon_eek as a BM hunter more by luck than judgement, made a mess of thing along the way ( got wrong gear ) but trying to put things right.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/charac…..st+slayers

I'm the only lvl icon_eek hunter in our small guild and the only one with a hunter main (GM lvl icon_eek DK ) Would like to help out our lower lvl hunters and try and get a few more up higher with advice and spec.

Started to do WG a while back, do ok until a mob descends on me, ( I die a loticon_sad ) also tried the BGs, but I suck at them apart from WsG where traps are my main weapon (hide in silverwing).

So Guys, need some help to show me what and where I'm going wrong.

Love and Hugs

Porcia

“We, the unwilling,led by the unknowing,are doing the impossible for the ungrateful.

We have done so much,for so long,with so little,we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.”

June 8, 2010
9:57 pm
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Porcia said:

Hi Guys,

Just found this site and it's been a mine of information, best one I've come across.

Story so far, Got to lvl icon_eek as a BM hunter more by luck than judgement, made a mess of thing along the way ( got wrong gear ) but trying to put things right.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/charac…..st+slayers

I'm the only lvl icon_eek hunter in our small guild and the only one with a hunter main (GM lvl icon_eek DK ) Would like to help out our lower lvl hunters and try and get a few more up higher with advice and spec.

Started to do WG a while back, do ok until a mob descends on me, ( I die a loticon_sad ) also tried the BGs, but I suck at them apart from WsG where traps are my main weapon (hide in silverwing).

So Guys, need some help to show me what and where I'm going wrong.

Love and Hugs

Porcia


Hi Porcia,

Thanks for stopping by. I can definitely help you out.

Based on your armory, I can't really tell where you're going with either spec. My guess is that your BM spec was your primary leveling build and perhaps your current build for questing, etc. Your Marksmanship spec looks like something you may be trying to use for PvP..?

I have a few posts I'd like for you to read, but before that, let's go over a few fundamentals…

These are the stats you want:

  • Hit Rating (until you are capped)
  • Agility
  • Attack Power
  • Crit
  • Armor Penetration
  • Haste
  • Intellect
  • Stamina

These are stats you don't want:

  • Strength
  • Spell Power
  • Defense
  • Mp5
  • Armor

There are other stats that you should stay away from, but those are the no-no stats I see present on your gear. Also, you should always put a 40crit scope on your gun or bow. Never go with a haste enchant on anything, at least not until Cataclysm. <img decoding="async" class="wp-smiley" src="/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt="icon_wink” /> Haste is useful for hunters, but only to a point. It is also the least important of the DPS stats.

Hit Rating

Hit rating is the single most important stat until you are capped at either 5% for PvP or 8% for PvE. Without talents or buffs, it requires 263 hit rating to be at the PvE hit cap and 165 hit rating for PvP.

You have 25 hit rating. <img decoding="async" class="wp-smiley" src="/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif" alt="icon_sad” /> This needs to be remedied asap. This is especially ghastly for PvP, where every shot counts and you're having to face opponents that have hit reducing talents, or a higher chance of being missed due to racials, etc.

Get properly itemized gear

You are wearing 3 pieces of gear that do not belong on a hunter. Your 2h belongs with a DK, Ret, or Warrior, your cloak belongs on a caster, and one of your trinkets is for tanking. You're losing a ton of DPS by not having proper items equipped in those slots.

Pets

The only level icon_eek pet I see in your stable is a wolf. This is great for PvE, but you don't have a viable option for PvP. Go get yourself a Necrotic Webspinner from Icecrown if you plan on continuing to PvP as MM. If you want to PvP as BM, then level that Core Hound up, or go get yourself one of the other recommended BM PvP Pets:

https://huntsmanslodge.com/hunt…..r-pvp-pets

Specs

Here are links to some guides on effective PvE builds:

https://huntsmanslodge.com/the-…..st-mastery

https://huntsmanslodge.com/5431…..master.htm

https://huntsmanslodge.com/the-…..rksmanship

https://huntsmanslodge.com/the-…..r-survival

And here are some links to some posts on effective PvP builds:

https://huntsmanslodge.com/5318…..glyphs.htm

https://huntsmanslodge.com/5560…..-redux.htm

https://huntsmanslodge.com/5459…..e-pets.htm

https://huntsmanslodge.com/5479…..iority.htm

https://huntsmanslodge.com/4007…..rt-one.htm

https://huntsmanslodge.com/4057…..rt-two.htm

I haven't written a guide yet on MM PvP, but fortuantely for you, that's what spec I am at the moment.

This is what I'm using and I find it to be quite effective:

http://www.wowarmory.com/chara…..mp;group=2

The pet I use for PvP is a Ravager.

Hopefully after a few of those suggestions and a little reading, you'll be topping the charts on both Recount and the BG leaderboards. <img decoding="async" class="wp-smiley" src="/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt="icon_smile” />

Good luck!

June 8, 2010
10:13 pm
Porcia
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Wow Garwulf ,

that was quick thanks. Got a lot of reading to do, told you I made mistakesEmbarassed

think I need to spend some gold in AH

I have been looking for some of the rare tamable elite in northrend but only on found so far was King Krush tried solo tame big mistake Cry

Love and Hugs

Porcia

“We, the unwilling,led by the unknowing,are doing the impossible for the ungrateful.

We have done so much,for so long,with so little,we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.”

June 8, 2010
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Porcia said:

Wow Garwulf ,

that was quick thanks. Got a lot of reading to do, told you I made mistakesEmbarassed

think I need to spend some gold in AH

I have been looking for some of the rare tamable elite in northrend but only on found so far was King Krush tried solo tame big mistake Cry

Love and Hugs

Porcia


We all have to learn somehow. I'm glad you posted, and I hope that the info I gave you will get you headed in the right direction. <img decoding="async" class="wp-smiley" src="/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt="icon_smile” />

Another couple of quick tips:

Make sure all of your gear is enchanted and gemmed. If you can't afford the best, then no worries, but at least stick some useful stats on wherever you can.

SV and MM want agility

BM wants AP

Go with straight agility (or attack power) gems in all of your red sockets.

For yellow sockets: hit, hit/agility, crit/agility – whichever is needed.

Blue sockets: get one Nightmare Tear (+10 to all stats), then go with either straight ap or agility, thus ignoring the socket bonus (for PvE), or stam/agility (PvP).

Relentless Earthsiege Diamond is thee meta gem for hunters.

Put an eternal buckle on your belt and socket a red gem in it.

If you think you may want to flip-flop specs, then go agility all the way. AP is a bit better for BM, but agility won't penalize it much at all.

My suggestions for builds:

Go with SV for dungeons and raids, and BM for PvP. This combination of specs will probably ensure that you do well in both aspect of play, while also enjoying yourself.

Oh… and as for Krush… good luck! icon_biggrin Solo taming him is quite a feat, especially since the BW nerf. Good luck if you choose to pursue him. icon_smile

Personally, I'd suggest a Spirit Beast however. They're a little easier to manage one on one. icon_wink

June 10, 2010
12:59 pm
Porcia
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Hi Again,

as you can see I've been a busy girl, spending gold at the AH and elsewhere

http://eu.wowarmory.com/charac…..st+slayers

Got that Necrotic Webspinner from Icecrown, LvL 79.

First time out with new spec in WG was 3 best damage dealer in our raid group behind another Hunter and a Paladin.

Love and Hugs

Porcia

“We, the unwilling,led by the unknowing,are doing the impossible for the ungrateful.

We have done so much,for so long,with so little,we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.”

June 12, 2010
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Porcia said:

Hi Again,

as you can see I've been a busy girl, spending gold at the AH and elsewhere

http://eu.wowarmory.com/charac…..st+slayers

Got that Necrotic Webspinner from Icecrown, LvL 79.

First time out with new spec in WG was 3 best damage dealer in our raid group behind another Hunter and a Paladin.

Love and Hugs

Porcia


Grats Porcia! Glad to hear my suggestions have helped you some. icon_smile

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