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BM comeback
August 13, 2009
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So since 3.2 dropped hunters have been keeping fairly happy since BM got a nice boost. But im wondering if u guys think BM is worth speccing for pve. i no sv still tops the charts but i wanna no if its close. i think people under estimate it becauase most ppl who compare are MM or SV and they are stacking agi and crit when if ur a BM u want AP cause agi and crit doesnt stack onto ur pet. so if some1 out tehre has bm gear and pulls dps thats just as good as MM or SV or better plz post links of your armory.

August 13, 2009
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Hey man, I'm also digging the boost. I actually don't think survival holds the top anymore. Marks was barely losing to survival last patch and I think we finally got em this go round. Right after the patch went live I hit up the dummies in org for a couple hours switchiing stuff around and checking and BM is only about 2-400dps lower than marks for me. The average was about 200 though. I'm rolling in gear w/ lots of agility so might not be entirely specced for bm, but dont forget ag has a one to one ratio with ap, so really other gear is just as good for bm imo.

So, my conclusion is that Marks is top, Surv is second by about 1-200dps, and BM is bringing up the rear still but by a very slim margin.

This guy had a litlle bit different numbers than me but you may want to check him out too.

http://thehuntersrefuge.blogsp…..ps-32.html

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August 13, 2009
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Are folks using Catlike reflexes now?

It looks to me like 3/3 enables us to keep the Kill command buff up indefinitely..  /rawr!

i am considering:

http://www.wowarmory.com/talen…..0000000000

If anyone has a link to a cookie cutter 3.2 dps Bm build i'd love to take a look at it.

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August 13, 2009
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http://www.wowarmory.com/chara…..38;group=2

This one is mine. Idk if its what anyone else uses, but i got the 3 in clr and 2 in gftt. I figure with that and 2 in bestial discipline my pet can constantly throw down specials. Idk if that logic is correct, gar is much more experienced in bm than i, but just a thought.

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August 13, 2009
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Kill Command is a bit misleading in that the tootltip states that the buff lasts 30 seconds, which is true…

However, it's only good for 3 attacks. Furthermore, only one hits for 60% increased damage, while the subsequent ones hit for only 40% and 20% damage respectively.

Roarbeard, I have some advice for you on your spec if I may… As a BM Hunter you must have 3/3 in careful Aim. You are losing nearly 400AP by not picking that up. Don't post on these forums again until you've respecced. icon_wink

Seriously though, dump IHM and pull one point from Mortal Shots and fill out Careful Aim. I also recommend you take one point from GftT and put it in Improved Tracking for 3/5. 1/2 in GftT is quite sufficient for keeping your pet's focus fueled. The other point will earn you more DPS elsewhere.

I'm assuming this is a PvE build since you don't have Aimed Shot.

August 13, 2009
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All sippin on that hateraid sucka. /port to orgrimmar icon_biggrin

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August 13, 2009
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August 14, 2009
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Garwulf – Thanks for the post on cat like reflexes and your comments here – great help and i appreciate it.

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August 14, 2009
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Roarbeard said:

Hey man, I'm also digging the boost. I actually don't think survival holds the top anymore. Marks was barely losing to survival last patch and I think we finally got em this go round. Right after the patch went live I hit up the dummies in org for a couple hours switchiing stuff around and checking and BM is only about 2-400dps lower than marks for me. The average was about 200 though. I'm rolling in gear w/ lots of agility so might not be entirely specced for bm, but dont forget ag has a one to one ratio with ap, so really other gear is just as good for bm imo.

So, my conclusion is that Marks is top, Surv is second by about 1-200dps, and BM is bringing up the rear still but by a very slim margin.

This guy had a litlle bit different numbers than me but you may want to check him out too.

http://thehuntersrefuge.blogsp…..ps-32.html

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Thanks for those numbers. The THing is tho i would like to see the dps that BM can come up with if that sed player enchants and gems ap over agi. cause for a basic agi gem it gives u 16 agi and some hit. so thats 16 agi. when if u gem and/or enchant ap ull have double the ap, around 32 ap. So saying that i think BM is just getting sat on because hunters dont realize that if u stack ap like a mother u can accually probablly equal up with SV.

November 17, 2009
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I was in a toc 10 hc with my hunter in BM spec but with my survival gear & was pulling a reasonable 4.3 k dps : / thou in survival its about 5 k its still not to bad.

I jumpped ship to survival after BM got done with the nerf bat in jan or wotever it was xD & havent raided with it since so if i was gemmed & enchanted for full BM ( AP + crit) that number should be a fair bit higher , ive not been able to test this since ive only just started building AP + crit gear for bm raiding.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/charac…..8;n=Boorka

November 17, 2009
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Boorka said:

I was in a toc 10 hc with my hunter in BM spec but with my survival gear & was pulling a reasonable 4.3 k dps : / thou in survival its about 5 k its still not to bad.

I jumpped ship to survival after BM got done with the nerf bat in jan or wotever it was xD & havent raided with it since so if i was gemmed & enchanted for full BM ( AP + crit) that number should be a fair bit higher , ive not been able to test this since ive only just started building AP + crit gear for bm raiding.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/charac…..p;n=Boorka


The last time I ran some tests for BM on femaledwarf.com, AP gems and enchants edged out agility by a minuscule amount. Of course, this was based on my gear, so results may vary. Regardless, the top DPS BM build was still ~400 DPS lower than the best SV build.

November 27, 2009
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what i am hoping is that with the new pet talent culling the heard will make BM raid viable again.

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