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PvP Ideas For Hunters
November 28, 2010
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Takaas
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Here is some ideas I've had for Hunters in PvP. It might not make them balanced, but just some ideas.

(1) Give us a silence or interrupt that lasts a bit longer OR make the cooldown shorter. 

(2) Make our traps harder to break out of or harder to get through. Other classes have a WAY to easy time getting out of our traps, especially frost.

(3) Make our pets tougher. We are supposed to be THE pet class, but I see Deathknight ghouls and Warlocks minions lasting longer in pvp.

(4) Make it so that we have the longest range of ranged classes. Other classes have all sorts of options for getting in closer to us, so why not make them work for it?

(5) Aimed Shot should be for all specs and be put back to the way it was in vanilla WoW and at the start of Cata beta. 3 second cast time and does a boat load of damage.

November 30, 2010
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I hate that they took away the added range (Hawk Eye) talent. Not only was it great vs other classes, but it was one of only a few advantages we could have over other hunters.

I miss Aimed Shot, and yes… the original one. The instant cast Aimed Shot never made sense to me. :-\

I may just roll MM for my 2nd spec so I can use it again.

November 30, 2010
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Garwulf said:

I hate that they took away the added range (Hawk Eye) talent. Not only was it great vs other classes, but it was one of only a few advantages we could have over other hunters.

I miss Aimed Shot, and yes… the original one. The instant cast Aimed Shot never made sense to me. :-

I may just roll MM for my 2nd spec so I can use it again.


Aimed Shot hits like a wet noodle. Only time I use it is whe the special MM ability procs.

November 30, 2010
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That's so bass-ackwards. Aimed Shot should bring the lumber.

I haven't specced MM yet since 4.0, but your mention there is duly noted. I'm enjoying BM/BM, so I suppose I may as well remain BadassMofoBeastMaster.

Drach knows what I'm talkin' 'bout.

December 1, 2010
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I've been seriously thinking of going BM for PvPing. I just can't seem to put out the damage in MM as I do in BM.

December 1, 2010
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I think BM's a good way to go right now. We're focus-efficient, we've got some nice survivability, Spirit Beasts are the sauce right now, Intimidation is great, and not much lives through the big red assault.

December 1, 2010
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I've had some luck as BM with a fox as my pet as well.

December 2, 2010
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Garwulf said:

That's so bass-ackwards. Aimed Shot should bring the lumber.

I haven't specced MM yet since 4.0, but your mention there is duly noted. I'm enjoying BM/BM, so I suppose I may as well remain BadassMofoBeastMaster.

Drach knows what I'm talkin' 'bout.


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December 2, 2010
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I have also enjoyed BM in PvP alot since the patch.  I agree its the way to rock atm.

Horns and Hooves = +15  DPS

December 20, 2010
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Any1 ideas for which pet i should get for BM atm? if not a spirit beast icon_smile because im not that lucky with my spawn rates ;P

December 20, 2010
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I'm still doing PvP as MM and usually take my fox in with me. I'm still seeing spiders a bit. Dogs and monkeys are pretty good. THe monkey especially. The last I heard, people can't trinket out of the monkey's stun.

December 21, 2010
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Do you mind linking your spec?
– i want to try and give MM a go then icon_biggrin

December 21, 2010
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http://us.battle.net/wow/en/ch…..nt/primary

Keep in mind its the spec I've chosen to run with right now and you may get different advice from the “pros”.

September 1, 2011
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Garwulf said:

Aimed Shot hits like a wet noodle. Only time I use it is whe the special MM ability procs.

 

I’m curious to see if you think this is still the case. The post I quote from was in December 2010 and 4.2 is with us now…

 

I was wondering about how hard my shots were hitting last night, and did the math…

 

For my level 39 MM (from memory) and using the top of the range damage from the heirloom Dwarven shotgun…

 

Arcane Shot         189      

Multi-Shot            172

Steady Shot          175

Kill Shot               225

Kill Command       332

Aimed Shot          632

 

If I’m terribly wrong I’ll post a correction. I have the actual numbers on my notepad at home.

 

By the way, I also think out range should exceed other casters… whether ours be longer or theirs shorter doesn't really matter.

 

Cheers

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September 2, 2011
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I use Aimed Shot quite a bit in PvP now. It hits for decent damage these days. Usually I will lead with it when starting a fight. Aimed followed by Chimera is a good chunk of damage.

I totally agree with the range thing. We are supposedly supposed to be the kings of range, although we are supposed to be the kings of cc as well, but Frost Mages blow us out of the water in that department.

September 2, 2011
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Darrwyn said:

Garwulf said:

Aimed Shot hits like a wet noodle. Only time I use it is whe the special MM ability procs.

 

I'm curious to see if you think this is still the case. The post I quote from was in December 2010 and 4.2 is with us now…

 

I was wondering about how hard my shots were hitting last night, and did the math…

 

For my level 39 MM (from memory) and using the top of the range damage from the heirloom Dwarven shotgun…

 

Arcane Shot         189      

Multi-Shot            172

Steady Shot          175

Kill Shot               225

Kill Command       332

Aimed Shot          632

 

If I'm terribly wrong I'll post a correction. I have the actual numbers on my notepad at home.

 

By the way, I also think out range should exceed other casters… whether ours be longer or theirs shorter doesn't really matter.

 

Cheers

D

Ok, a few things my memory couldn't remember so well…

 

Arcane     173 

Steady      142

Multi         135

Kill Shot     374

Kill Comm  328

Aimed        657

 

and I forgot to mention

Serpent Sting   404 over 15 seconds

 

I'm not sure if this difference will remain, but aimed is around 3 1/2 the punch of arcane, and more than 4 times the clout of aimed with only a second linger cast time. Of course, as physical damage it's not so great against plate, but it sure hurts cloth and leather! I use it often in PvP against enemies that are not being targeted by anyone else… I hate when they die before I get the shot off!

 

Cheers,

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