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(@crimsongeezer)
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[#1074]

This could prob go in mechanics, but also here.  I'm just trying to figure out how to best use Ricket's Magnetic Fireball, and Unsolvable Riddle in macros.  They share a cooldown, so I can't pop them both at the same time, or I guess that's the reason I can't, not too good with use trinkets.  I'm thinking leave one in my boss macro, pop the other as soon as I can after.  Right now the first one available pops.  Any help greatly appreciated!

 

/assist focus
/cast Hunter's Mark
/cast Bestial Wrath
/petattack
/use 13 (Unsolvable Riddle)
/use 14 (Ricket's Magnetic Fireball)
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()


 
Posted : 10/08/2011 9:05 pm
Ozolin
(@ozolin)
Posts: 413
 

Crim, I'm a dunce when it comes to macros, so I can't advise you on your actual question. The best advice I *can* give you is to replace Riddle with Fluid Death asap. You wont have to worry about working around the shared cd's AND you'll increase your DPS, or should anyway, based on everything I've seen and read.


 
Posted : 10/08/2011 9:13 pm
(@crimsongeezer)
Posts: 134
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Thanks Oz, that's next on my list to get.  🙂  I actually prefer procs over use trinkets, sometimes I'm lazy and want stuff done for me.  Wink


 
Posted : 10/08/2011 10:11 pm
Ozolin
(@ozolin)
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I figured you'd be after Fluid Death when you could 😉 I just wanted to chime in but don't know squat about how macros work. (I don't need anyone to post here about how they work, I'm just sayin)

I've agonized at times over which trinkets to use, despite excellent advice and lists like those found over at WHU. I usally end up plugging all the ones I have available into Zeherah's spreadsheet to see which actually increases my DPS.

I'm bad at Maths so have a hard time wrapping my head around proc %s and the stacking AGI or AP or Crit bonuses they give over On Use abilities, so I play dumb and avoid those conflicts when I can, lol.

I look forward to seeing if there's a solid answer here to your question!


 
Posted : 11/08/2011 12:10 am
Windolicker
(@indomitus)
Posts: 224
 

It's pretty easy most of the time to figure out how trinkets work, and with the changes Unheeded Warning might actually be better for hunters than Ricket's(Cause Ricket's is flat out terribad).  Personally, I'd use Unsolvable Riddle over Ricket's, you can Reforge the mastery, and the Agi use is a lot better than the crit use.

 

If you really want to figure out the ICD of a certain proc trinket, either look it up on WoWhead or if you already have the trinket, use a Cooldown timer that tracks trinket cooldowns(ForteXorcist's cooldown timer can do this, Heatsink can as well).

 

All use trinket's share a cooldown, there is no way around this with or without macro's.


 
Posted : 11/08/2011 12:49 am
Felinin
(@felinin)
Posts: 53
 

My Trinket 1 (slot 13) is permanently macroed in with BW (as above), but I have a separate keybind for Trinket 2 (slot 14). If I happen to have two on-use trinkets, I put the best one for use with BW/TBW in the T1 slot. When I only have one on-use trinket (like now - Fluid Death and Ricket's Magnetic Fireball) it goes in the T2 slot.

As for Ricket's Magnetic Fireball, I haven't checked what damage the 'small celestial objects' themselves do - if any - but the ability to land stuff from outer space on my target's head (or heads) is just too Cool to pass up! 

Even ignoring that, Ricket's is a definite improvement for me in PvE, compared to Riddle. These days, in our fast heroic runs with almost continuous action, and also on the longer Zandalari trash and boss fights, I find that my overall DPS is higher with the permanent Agi and on-use Crit of Ricket's. We are not really Cata raiding yet, but I would imagine the same applies to the longer fights in raids.

I still tend to use Riddle in my (limited and incompetent) PvP action though, where a big damage burst at a critical moment can make all the difference. It is, after all, a Baradin's Wardens item.

I can't agree about using Unheeded Warning over Ricket's - maybe you misread the stats on this item, Windolicker? Firstly, it has less Agi than Ricket's, and secondly I believe the proc on this trinket is useless, if we are being good hunters and keeping our melee weapon sheathed at all times.  Smile


 
Posted : 11/08/2011 7:40 pm
Windolicker
(@indomitus)
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Derp, I always forget the procs off melee attacks part, partially because I play Feral so much rather than my hunter.


 
Posted : 11/08/2011 10:52 pm
(@crimsongeezer)
Posts: 134
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@Felinin, that's what I've gone with, I have Rickets in 13, and riddle in 14.  I have to agree on the Celestial Objects, its just cool.  I'll get fluid death this week, I'd have it if I'd stay off my lock a little more, but I kinda enjoy playing him.  I wasn't too keen on Flintlockes but now I kinda snicker every time it procs.

 

@Windolicker, it be aweful nice if UH proc'd off ranged or even our pet melee might make it better for hunters.


 
Posted : 13/08/2011 5:00 am
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