To all those who made their first post a post in this thread, I think it speaks volumes about your character that you feel strongly enough about helping people that you choose this topic to share your thoughts. Way to go!
and to think, you sparked it too. *raises a glass to Lawman too, smiling proudly*
Having to put up with what we do, I think does help Hunters in one way. I think it brings us together more. Ive found the Hunter community a bit more friendly then other classes. My secondary is a Retribution Paladin and I found a whole lot more of people there that could care less about helping you out. I get a lot of turned up noses there. Ive yet to find a really great site like this one or Warcraft Hunters Union. Ive found that even the Hunters within the guild seem to have a special bond compared to the other classes. Dont get me wrong, we do have a few "bad apples", but mostly we are a very helpful, friendly community from the things Ive seen.
I reg'd just to reply to this post (although I plan on staying awhile after some lurking)
First off to the OP, thanks! for doing that, we should all set such an example.
Some background:
I am a 100% total "noob" to WOW (I am on day 37 playing, thats creation of account, not 37days of actual play time)
To make matters worse the way I was cohersed into playing was that I was to be given a lvl 80 hunter... (my brother's, yeah I know against TOS blah blah blah)
But that being said I was basically throw right into the lions den, told to get to 85 asap and that my guildies would then start running with me for 333/346/359s+
Awesome I thought, until I logged in. I had no idea what I was doing. But I pushed forward, and luckily I ran into a lot of players (some even non-hunters) that offered their assistance, that even they may have thought as small answer, that actually were IMMENSE in the progression of my toon/knowledge of the game. but for every good apple there were A LOT more bad I literally cant express to you how many a%^$oles there have been.
Bliz has a lot of work to do on the learning curve for the game. I still find myself using outside resources to learn what new talents spells do (on my alts).
One thing that I have also learned is that a lot of players dont think outside the box, once "paragon" says XX is the best XX then it is set in stone. I have been kicked from multiple instances because I refuse to use a wolf when I am using my Cat because "the wolf does better dps" when the cat infact brings the 549+ agility and thus better dps for not only hunters but druids and shamy dps in the group.
Same can be said with PVP gear in place of PvE. Yes I understand that in top DPS it MAY make a difference but for those of us that are sub 359ilvl it may actually be better gear for us and in some of the pieces you can reforge out of res, and into a PvE stat. I think that as hunters we are SOO agility needy that PvP makes sense sometimes.
But I digress, I am more than happy now that I am this far in. For a progress report I am now a lvl 85 SV hunter 349 ilvl and a couple weeks into (wiping lol) raids. to top it off I am the top 1-3 dps in our guild (depending on boss).
So thanks to all that could have possibly helped me (mannoroth) and I hope that this inspires everyone else to help when asked or while you are waiting to que just ask if anyone needs help 🙂
-Lib
Lib-If you find you like the game (okay playing a hunter as I don't speak of others here) and do have the time I'd highly recommend you build a new character from scratch. You'll find the learning curve to be much less painful and a helluva lot of fun. On that, Blizz intentionally does that lack of info thing-part of the 'gaming experience' or something. That's why sites like this and a couple of others are so valuable. I've not played long and have probably spent as much time reading as playing.
It's good that you have had some people help you but you are truly missing out on a lot starting where you have. Welcome to the joint by the way
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Agio said:
Lib-If you find you like the game (okay playing a hunter as I don't speak of others here) and do have the time I'd highly recommend you build a new character from scratch. You'll find the learning curve to be much less painful and a helluva lot of fun. On that, Blizz intentionally does that lack of info thing-part of the 'gaming experience' or something. That's why sites like this and a couple of others are so valuable. I've not played long and have probably spent as much time reading as playing.
It's good that you have had some people help you but you are truly missing out on a lot starting where you have. Welcome to the joint by the way
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Oh of course! I have a lvl 27 druid as well as a 62 DK, the lure was that I wouldnt have to grind out to 65 for a month or two before getting to play with the rest of the guild in raids. But the learning curve is still pretty steep. I have other friends who have all but given up because they hate leveling through the 60-85, and if they have gotten to 85 the learning that they think they have doesnt always equate to the best (insert class/spec here). Not everyone runs dungeons, in fact I am willing to bet that most of our lower guildies quest their way up through 85.
I will have to shed some light on this more, and document my wifes experience of wow, when she starts (for the first time) in about a month. I just hope that Bliz doesnt forget that there are still in fact people who havent ever played that are picking the game up today.
Lib-I play entirely solo, don't do guilds, raids or lunch. Anything I've ever written here is mainly from a new players perspective. I've been playing for maybe 8 mos now. I call myself casually obsessed 🙂
I'd hazard the vast majority of players aren't hardcore-far from it. Hence why it was nice to see lawman help a player who actually needed it and was prepared to listen. It's not unique but I'd say it's scarce.
I will have to shed some light on this more, and document my wifes experience of wow, when she starts (for the first time) in about a month. I just hope that Bliz doesnt forget that there are still in fact people who havent ever played that are picking the game up today.
Agio, this is the basis for my guild, pretty much, and we are one of the largest on Moon Guard. We recognize that 80% (going off the 80/20 rule) of players want a more casual experience, like to level, and would rather do it in a group of friends. I see Lawmans every day, within the people I've grown to know over 4 years, and know that they do exist. I do hope that when your wife comes to game, that she enjoys her time growing with others in the game just as much. The Lawmans of Azeroth, are gold. I don't think Blizzard has forgotten us at all. Being a level 19 guild has some pretty sweet perks.
Niika
who dies a lot, and has discovered the wonderful fun of a corpse run.
Niika-It is LibertySyclone's wife who is coming to Wow. Not mine, she left me for another woman. Aside from that information I really didn't need to share, I wasn't saying all guilds are bad or people in game are. Far from it. Guilds just aren't my gig. Anyhow, don't want to see this thread hijacked with my ramblings so.....I'm thinking of asking lawman30 to marry me; maybe we can have baby Gnarfs or would it be Dwomes?
Agio, while I apologize for screwing that up, you have me in stitches with your tongue-in-cheek response, and thank you for that, intentional or not. Huge hugs coming your way, and next time I proffer response, may I have coffee in hand BEFORE my Ginger and gin morning after. 😀
Lawman, guys like you are one of the reasons I still enjoy playing the game. Throughout my tenure as a hunter I have helped a lot of people, though not necessarily to the extent that you did in this case. I love when newer players come to me for advice or when I can teach someone about the class.
I hope the positive players stick around and continue to play, though since Cataclysm has come out I have noticed a lot less of the unsavory characters that used to be a huge problem in the community.
drackmire said:
I hope the positive players stick around and continue to play, though since Cataclysm has come out I have noticed a lot less of the unsavory characters that used to be a huge problem in the community.
Wow, I wish I had your luck, drack. My experience with Cata has been that the a$$holes are out in force. From being COMPLETELY rude and impatient in dungeons to whining and complaining about 'unfair mob tagging' while questing and doing dailies to all things in between, the jerks have really come to the fore in my little world. That is probably why I have spent so much time on my alts or doing archeology or taming pets or anything else I can do in-game without having to 'bother' people. It's heartening to hear that my world may yet change for the better! =)
Honestly, I believe that many of the "jerks" that seem to have come out of the woodwork since Cata's release are, sadly, the same people we've been playing with, only Cata has made them bitter and angry! I've seen guildies transform before my very eyes from kind hearted, helpful souls, into frothing, raging, impatient, kick-happy hooligans. It's been a bit distressing, which only highlights your original post even more, Law.
Now more than ever, friendliness and patience is needed to keep Azeroth fun for us all. The beauty of the game, for me, is that I can always find something else to keep me interested, or happy to play. That's not to say the jerks and asshats spewing their venom don't bother me, but I can just log on an alt, or just go fishing, heh.
Ozzie, your first paragraph has me cracking up. You are right, unfortunately.
It confuses me. I don't understand how people loose the grasp that this is a social COMPUTER GAME that we PAY FOR. This is not reality. If someone doesn't get a drop, or someone tags a wrong mob, it's okay to be disappointed, but it's not okay to wrath about it all day. Methinks some have spent too much time with Dr. Evil. More laughter is needed!
In BGs anyway, the venom spewing is at an all-time high right now. It really sucks too, because that's what I enjoy most when I log on. I've gotten pretty much desensitized to it, but I can't help but wish these idiots would move on and find a new game.
I'm talking about the... "OMFG YOU GUYS ARE TERRIBAD" guy(s). Their disease is spreading through Azeroth like wildfire. No matter what BG I'm in, there are always at least 2 of these guys.
When I hop on my lower level alts, they go away, which is what I often do when I've had enough.
I probably should post about this and bring more attention to this anti-asshat movement.
just tell them to do a search on Rift and to leave Azeroth alone. I am tempted...