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11:07 am
Here are the T13 set bonuses for the best class in the game.
This is royally going to hose my rotation in SV but dps should go up…I hope.
T13 will not be available by Valor points 
I will add the T13 visual when Bliz decideds its been long enough teasing us
Hunter
- 2P – Steady Shot and Cobra Shot generate double the amount of focus.
- 4P – Your Arcane Shot ability has a chance to grant 25% haste to you and your pet for 10 sec.
12:46 pm
Lodge Muse
July 3, 2010
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I'm MM and looking forward to not double slamming SS to rebuild focus. I am really interested to see the 4-pc in action; i'm not highly reliant on AS outside of certain phases.
10:33 pm
Officer
May 28, 2010
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10:45 pm
Tak you totally ninja'd me, I was literally about to hit send.
I would rather be a goat than a Pirate!! I like the T13
reminds me of dragnet:
5:24 am
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February 24, 2011
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I'm wondering if MM will stilll need to double-fire Steady to get their Haste buff AND, I'm wondering if the 4p bonus means Bliz is doing something to Haste in general to make it a more attractive stat.
Everything I read says Haste is one of if not the least important stat when looking at Hunters' gear. Obviously we want/need to be at least at the first plateau, which at 85 is almost impossible to miss, but I've always been a bit foggy when it comes to Haste and our DPS, so hopefully I'll learn more before I'm anywhere close to T13 4p. If that day ever comes, lol.
11:57 am
Lodge Muse
July 3, 2010
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Now that I'm thinking about it, I am sure they won't remove the double-fire SS haste buff, yet, will this stack? Will it be multiplicative? One thing I noticed last night (perhaps due to lag or being on the laptop) that my second SS hit would take only about 75% of the time. It was very annoying to me. I'm usually pretty anal about my shot choices and silly little things like that irk me to no end.
I have always shied away from the haste discussions. I am unsure what the different plateau numbers/percentages are. I have yet to read a good comprehensive Agio's Idiot's Guide to Stacking Stats out there. Even Frosty's guide is confusing to me.
12:31 pm
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May 28, 2010
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Yeah, I admit to not completely understanding the whole haste thing. It is an important stat from what I have seen though. When using the site http://www.askmrrobot.com it kept telling me I needed to reforge into more haste. I knew I needed haste, but thought not as much as it was saying. Finally one day I decided to see if it was correct. I reforged a bunch of stuff to haste and my dps took a pretty good jump. I went from averaging 18-19k dps to now hitting 21k on a regular basis in raids.
5:10 pm
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February 24, 2011
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The only think I understood (or think I understood) from Frost's guide to the Plateaus, is that (for SV) you're gaining DPS for every bit of Haste up to the first Hard Plateau, which for me is 5.914% Haste/758 Haste Rating because I'm not using the T11 4p bonus.
After that, until you hit the first Soft Plateau, 17.682% Haste/2265 Haste Rating, you're not significantly increasing your DPS by adding Haste. I don't think he's saying it's worthless, you're just not adding another filler shot to your rotation until you get there. Then again, maybe I don't understand it.
I'm currently sitting @ 1.6s Cobra Shot cast time, so I'm not, according to Frost's math, at the first Soft Plateau. I've done some testing on the dummies though and tried going with Haste just over the Hard Mark #1 and my DPS was way lower than where it is now.
I may be able to get close enough to Soft Mark #1 with reforging but I haven't tried it yet.
This all makes my head hurt, and it seems counter intuitive to me that Mastery is the "worst" stat for SV, what with SS up all the time, but maybe I don't understand *that* stat either, lol.
I'm always trying to learn more about being a Hunter, but theorycrafting isn't my forte.
5:35 am
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September 8, 2010
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As a BM hunter this will be very awesome, we won't need to rely on cobra spamming near as much, and can pump more Arcane shots to up our dps even more which will be great! I can see this being a huge benefit to BadMofo hunters.
Yea it looks a lot cooler than the t12 demon pirate stuff, but I will say that it will look even better on an orc 
5:36 am
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May 28, 2010
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Ozolin said:
I'm always trying to learn more about being a Hunter, but theorycrafting isn't my forte.
That about sums it up for me as well!
9:42 am
So basically every PvP hunter worth their salt is going to be forced to use 2pc of the PvE set, which not only forces PvErs to PvP, which goes against nearly every rule blizzard CLAIMS to have about splitting the two games, but it makes us squishyer than everyone else in PvP as we will lose resilience.
Seriously… Hmm…. .4 focus per sec on my pvp 4pc, or double focus? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM…. Yeah, no choice necessary.
9:55 am
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February 24, 2011
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10:48 pm
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September 26, 2010
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Niika said:
I'm MM and looking forward to not double slamming SS to rebuild focus. I am really interested to see the 4-pc in action; i'm not highly reliant on AS outside of certain phases.
Hi Niika,
Please explain? AS is our third best instant ability (after Aimed Shot (on proc) and Kill Command) and it's not on cooldown. How do you not rely on it "except in certain phases?". Believe me, I'm not sticking a boot in, I need to know!
My "priority" (rotation) is Chimera, Aimed (on proc), Kill Command, Arcane, Steady to regain focus…. what am I doing wrong?
Cheers,
D
It's not an adventure unless your life is in peril!
6:23 am
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May 28, 2010
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Darrwyn said:
Niika said:
I'm MM and looking forward to not double slamming SS to rebuild focus. I am really interested to see the 4-pc in action; i'm not highly reliant on AS outside of certain phases.
Hi Niika,
Please explain? AS is our third best instant ability (after Aimed Shot (on proc) and Kill Command) and it's not on cooldown. How do you not rely on it "except in certain phases?". Believe me, I'm not sticking a boot in, I need to know!
My "priority" (rotation) is Chimera, Aimed (on proc), Kill Command, Arcane, Steady to regain focus…. what am I doing wrong?
Cheers,
D
Drop KC from your rotation, your going to see a dps increase by using other abilities. For MM keeping up your haste buff from improved steady shot and getting your free aimed shot to proc are priority. My "rotation" is:
Chimera, Kill Shot, Aimed (proc), steady, steady, steady.
With using steady so much your working at getting the free aimed shot to proc.
Usually the only time I use arcane is if I'm forced to move. Rather then switch aspects I try to move, while popping off a couple of arcanes, then go stationary again, picking back up my "rotation". I average about 19 to 20K dps sometimes hitting 21k.
8:29 am
Lodge Muse
July 3, 2010
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so sorry Darr, I missed your note when I got back. I do use a standard MM rotation, I was merely exaggerating. it feels like i'm smushing the SS button on the longer fights and my Chimera shot or Aim procs aren't coming often enough for me. I am like Tak and I use Arcane in movement. I phase my fights for Careful Aim for the first 20% of damage, so never use it during that phase. During the middle of the fight, I only use it if 'm moving (may be wrong on this, but I never seem to have enough focus to dump it on an arcane shot), and Kill Shot priority on the final section (when i get aimed shot procs like crazy)
I'm not in a min/max mode right now due to RL issues, so just playing within my comfort zone, so do not take my comments as advice.
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