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Thanks for the welcome, Niika!

I'll just keep the bullet thing going for simplicity's sake.

1) Aha! You bring up an excellent  point!

a newly-grooming tank

Funny, I thought I was the only person learning this game! Honestly, that never even occured to me. I think I actually assumed that 90% of pre 's were just vets leveling alts. Especially someone in a tank role. That really puts things in perspective. I will keep TS and Growl turned off from now on. Still, and this is me being cocky, I could tank these 60's dungeons myself.

2) Kiting, yes. Not very good at it yet. I can do it in an WIDE open area, but within walls and under pressure is another story. I suppose so long as I'm leading them away from the healer into an area we've already been through, I won't attract any unwanted mobs. I was paranoid about moving too far away from the group though, so I panicked!

I will attempt to stick closer to the healer in the future, though. As I've said, I'm not really used to sharing screen space with others. My gaming in the past consisted of Survival Horror, Racing, and Shumps, so generally during this dungeons I pick a place to the side away from the action so I can see what I'm doing. I will try to get better with that.

3) Haha! I'll do that!

Seriously, that's great to know. Sometimes I think maybe MP will magically jump back out of the danger zone, but I know deep down when it's inching down too fast it will run out before the mob does.

4) Cool. I have plenty of potions and consumables being that I've solo'd so long. I generally wait for Viper and time to get back up to full, before moving on, just wanted to be sure. I think Viper while being a great asset is also a crutch. If we didn't have it, we'd know we had to sit and drink. I look at it like, "why waste a potion (ect) when I can get it for free. I should try to abandon that way of thinking.

I also didn't realize that when in a pinch and running low, you could toggle between the two just for certain shots. I pretty much wait for a mob to go down then go right into Viper. I never thought of actually being in Viper during steady shot, then switching to Hawk to fire off an Arcane, then back again. In any event, I think this is probably all about practice in the end.

5) In the interem I was reading a couple of FAQs on the Blizz board and came across something I hadn't really taken into consideration. That being to KNOW the instance beforehand! I guess if someone is making the same run over and over with a group, they know exactly when each encounter is coming and are able to plan ahead. Also, it didn'y occur to me to time BW with pther cool downs to optimize DPS…so much to learn.

I appreciate the reply! I'll be back at it tonight and hopefully be able to apply some this. Not that I'm wishing blood thristy mobs on the group's healer…well, not unless she/he kills my pet… 

edit: @ Boba 

One trick I've found is the using only Steady Shot in AoTV. I'll throw out all my hard hitting shots in Dragonhawk, then switch to Viper while they are on cd and fire off two SS. Even if I'm running way low on mana, this will keep me going through for a long time. If it really comes down to the wire, throw on Viper and just autoshot and SS through a mob or two till you get back to full mana. 

I hope this helps.

Great to get confirmation on this, thank you! After reading something similar earlier today, it really hit home. My fear was that the changing back and forth would be detrimental to overall DPS, but I also realize that DPS isn't something I really need worry about in lower level dungeons, either. Staying alive and productive are top priority. And not looking like an ass! That's always a good thing.

As far as the 5 mans are concerned, I'm glad you said it. I'm sure people cursed me out for doing stupid stuff as well. In one dungeon the warlock was ALL over the place. Running in the wrong direction, pulling mobs, it was a real mess, but I wasn't irritated in the least. For some reason the tank lossing aggro got on my nerves, though. I guess after 15 or so levels of Thunderstomping, Volleying AOE madness, I was feeling I could do a better job. I'm sure I couldn't…

I will definitely look into the threat meter. I'm a little paranoid about addons, though. This may sound hypocritical, but I'm playing WoW on a PC I do my business/school work on. It's very streamlined and no nosense. I don't browse unknown websites or DL torrents of any kind on it. I won't even let my wife use it. I have a crappy old laptop for that kinda stuff. Anyway, as soon as I saw the words "addon" and "keylogger" in the same sentence, I wasn't going anywhere near an addon site. I guess if I need them, I need them. Hopefully places like Curse are safe. I'll check em' out.

Thanks for the advice!

Thanks for the offer, that woulda been awesome. Sadly, I'm on Detheroc.

Good to hear about Curse. I'm taking classes on 3-D and compositing, so I have a bunch of apps residing on my hdd. Before I booted my wife off of my box, she got me a nice virus that forced me to reformat. I suffered a couple days of downtime trying to get back to speed, so I'm extra cautious these days.

Just to be sure, no addon folder should ever contain an .exe, yes? I forget which format they are coded in, but I remember reading that exes were a big red flag. Like you said, getting them straight from Curse should eliminate any doubt, but I prefer to err on the side of (OCD) caution.

Ah yes, MisD. I've read about it. I've also read how some tanks can get more than a little butt hurt when you use it on them.

I was going to ask about that at some point. The wording on the ability is a little confusing. Do I basically target and shoot MisD at the person I want the threat transferred over to? Is that all it takes, or do I then need to shoot another damaging shot at the mob in question before he goes to whatever I've misdirected onto…? Did that make sense?

Perfect, thanks! I was assuming MisD was a shot. Now that you said "cast" I see why I was confused about what to do.

Takaas said:

Make sure you have the tank targetted when you misdirect. I've accidentally mis-targetted a fellow dpser and misdirected the mob on to them.

Oh, I'm probably bound to do that at some point… 

Interesting! So theoretically, if you were in a regular guild with the same people doing runs, you could insert the tanks name in there as well? Either way, pretty cool.

I'm now 40% into lvl 69. My mind is totally burnt, but I should be 70 by tonight. Now I just need a healer to piss me off…

One other thing, I've been doing so many 5 man randoms the past few days, but I still can't seem to get past the nerves. I feel soooo uptight when in a group. I'm more concerned with making a mistake than doing the right amount of damage. I'm totally paranoid about sending off a stray shot that I go as far as to move my cursor off the screen when switching to Viper inbetween pulls. I wait a sec or two before sending in my pet, I hesitate between switching targets, I face the opposite direction when everyone is sitting down to drink just in case my finger targets something. If you saw me, you'd think I was doing brain surgery! I hope that gets better with time.

One thing to also keep in mind about the nerves is…right now you are doing content that a lot of people have done a gazillion times.  Those people want nothing more than to rush through as soon as possible.  What this creates is a sense of hurriedness, and it will take you much longer to learn the ins and outs of each dungeon.  Hell, the first time I tanked a Wrath dungeon, I had already gone through all of them (multiple times) with 2 other characters and even then I had no idea what was going on from a tanks perspective.  At 69 you are probably seeing Utgarde Keep…ALOT.  In time you'll be able to do that zone mostly AFK, with only one eye open, and one hand tied behind your back.  At that point you'll look back at these hectic times and wonder what the fuss was all about.