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First off , I would like to thank everyone for their help in advance. I have been trying to get my survival spec dps up for a few weeks now with no luck.

http://www.wowarmory.com/chara…..p;cn=beeza

I start off with my starter macro which includes hunters mark , and send pet. Then I do ba , ss, es, as with a steady shot thrown in durind cd's. All the hunters on my server I ask give different advice , which usually leads me to more and more confusion. So I ended up here. Please let me know what other info I need to give u. Thanks!

Thank you so much for amazingly fast reply. I will try out your suggestion and post back with the results.

I'd disagree with the above. I've had to point out many times that SV pays off more at a lower gear level than MM. Since you don't even have the passive arpen (400) to make dropping arcane shot from your rotation worthwhile it would have probably been better to stick with SV and get the hang of it first. Many, many people recommend going MM for raiding but do so way too early. SV is not the fail train much of the internet armchair generals say it is, with it you can CC more with improved traps and wyvern sting, you also bring raid replenishment with hunting party which may be a lot more useful than trying and not succeding at being the top DPS.

It's all about what you prefer to play as, but in many cases people who go MM too early will see a dps drop and would have been better to stick with SV a lot longer. Agility also pays off a lot more for SV and thus lets you reap greater rewards for stacking the +20 agil gems in your better items.

Coming from a MM hunter, looking at his gear I can tell he wouldn't greatly benefit from the 389 passive arpen on his gear, as that's not really enough for the minimum requirement for dropping arcane. Really no matter which way he goes he's got changes to make, but I think in most cases its much the same stat stacking for both specs, but the gear makes a big difference in how well MM will perform. Especially the weapon white damage. I was MM since lvl 70 but I just can't condone others doing it unless they plan to buy, and be harrassed for using, Rowans Rifle of Silver Bullets until they get a drop from ICC. Despite getting the felgalcier on my second day at , that rifle is much better for MM than survival that I never bothered to use the crossbow other than to prove my point in runs.

Maybe it's just because all I see nowadays is other MM hunters in raids and no SV to help keep me out of viper that little bit longer.

Here's my armory as an example of a MM build: http://www.wowarmory.com/chara…..;cn=Tisana

Arpen isn't all important, and I'd rather use the T10 gloves that I got in a drop for the set bonus than my leathers with arpen for now, but it is important to keep it above 400 to get the most from your piercing shots.

MM is pretty straight forward, compared to SV, I'll give you that.

Mark, sting, chimera, aimed, steady x4, lather, rinse, repeat. It also helps to have macro's that combine kill command and silencing shot into your 3 main shots.

SV I found myself being a little more unconventional, letting loose with freezing arrows on the tanks pull path to get L&L procs (or using for CC when unnecessary) at the start of fights, and using BA before aimed and steady to increase thier damage. But then again the only major difference is the L&L procs, which can throw off timing.

Beeza, do what you enjoy. Penetrate things with your arrows and have fun doing it.