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Some input wanted re: Macros & BM Shot rotation

June 4, 2011
6:17 am

Agio

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It's about that time in my WoW life to find out what I'm doing wrong so don't be shy icon_smile I'll preface my questions and current set-up etc by asking you to keep in mind that I play entirely solo PvE should you be kind enough to offer any input.

Current shot rotation excluding the WotLK Heroic bosses or Cata ginormous mobs I have no biz trying to solo (uhhh…Mobus ) is below.

Just to be specific-on trash in Heroic or whatever trapping, firing multi etc. I'm fine. It's whether I'm optimizing the rotation overall.

I lead off with Arcane not Kill Command-for whatever reason I find this to give me a decent rythmn. I do not start with auto-attack. I've tried all 3 variations, AA 1st, KC 1st and Arc 1st and this rotation seems to work best for me without costing me damage but I could be missing something by leading with a cast and not auto?

So it typically goes like this, Hawk and HM is up. Arcane, KC, Arcane or Cobra. Every shot has Focus Fire macroed into it as I do not need the 5 stacks. However, I'm not sure if the FF macro is impeding overall DPS?

On bosses, pet attack, SS then the Bestial Wrath Macro bleow and shot rotation is KC, Arc x 3, KC, Arc x 3-4 ,Cobra.

/cast Rapid Fire

/cast Rabid (Ferocity only, Tenacity this is gone)
/cast Bestial Wrath

/use 14

Not sure if it's a good idea to have rapid fire in there or bind it seperately?

That's about it, any advice etc. would be appreciated. If on the otherhand you're reading and saying "OMG!! How does the lil dwarf do it??!?!?" Well, you're welcome

Thanks-A

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June 6, 2011
2:59 am

Darrwyn

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I'm no expert but you haven't mentioned Bestial Wrath or Fervor. I'm sure you're using them but you just haven't mentioned it. I find that when solo it helps me to throw out a Concussive Shot to slow the mob down for 6 seconds… just me. If I'm soloing, DPS isn't that important it, survivability is key.

I don't understand why you would lead with a kill command when the pet needs to be on the target for it to work. I'd give it a couple of shots to allow the pet to engage or you you put something like "/cast [pettarget,exists,combat] Kill Command"

I think this is supposed to only cast KC if the pet is engaged, but I might have syntax wrong. Check Gar's macro page, the actual coding is in there.

I would tend to throw out 3 arcane shots and then build focus back up with cobra. In my BM spec I took the MM talent that boosts haste by 15% if you use steady shot in pairs so i have a castsequence that has cobra shot, steady shot, steady shot but a lot of hunters don't like castsequence macros so it's up to you.

Bestial Wrath does nothing for you if you don't use it… like voting, use it early, use it often.

You could look at throwing in your racial too… what race are you? If a troll, Berserking is good with BW but don't use BW with Rapid Fire… apparently it wastes the boost that BW gives you… see the guides by Frostheim about that…

As in my Bullshott thread, I've gone back to basics so take what I have written with a grain of salt.

Good luck.

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June 6, 2011
5:22 am

Agio

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Heya Darrwyn-This is more about maximizing DPS while soloing. Seeing if I missed anything. Right now it's all the WotLK 5's on heroic and maybe I'll try a few BC 10's. S'pose I should've been more specific. Was and am more concerned if I'm shot clipping etc. by leading with a cast as opposed to auto.

I did mention my rotation and I lead with Arc, not KC save on bosses where the optimum is I believe as I described:

"On bosses, pet attack, SS then the Bestial Wrath Macro below and shot rotation is KC, Arc x 3, KC, Arc x 3-4 ,Cobra."

I use Glyph of Misdirection as I use MD a lot along with Explosive, Ice and multi-shot on multiple mobs so rarely need concussive as my CC is decent. Of course occasionally one of the little rascals busts loose and gets on me. Then it's jump disengage or I pop off a 'Dick Cheney" my nick for scatter shot.

I don't use shot cast sequence macros, I do believe both Gar and Frostheim point out the problems of those depending on what you're doing of course. I did drop rapid fire from the macro and bound it seperately.

I'm a dwarf BM, name is the same on the Armory.

Thanks for the input-A

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June 7, 2011
5:14 am

CrimsonGeezer

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Agio, below is what I use for bosses, if I'm solo I always set my pet as my focus, for groups I use the same macros minus the Growl of course. These two are followed by KC, Arcane, Arcane, Arcane, KC, and try to time the second macro just before my pet gets to the mob. Any suggestions for improvement are welcome.

#showtooltip Hunter's Mark
/assist focus
/cast Hunter's Mark
/petattack
/cast Growl
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()

#showtooltip Serpent Sting
/cast Bestial Wrath
/cast Serpent Sting
/use 13
/cast !Auto Shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()

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June 7, 2011
6:40 am

Agio

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Heya CG-

I don't have any shots in macros. I tried one much like your second one but for me it just screwed things up. I have SS bound to F1 given I only use it on bosses or Cata mobs I feel frisky about. Mobus…oy…..did not end well.

I have a specific Misdirect/Focus macro bound to W with pet as target given it's just always me and the pet. Actually all my abilities/ macros and I don't have a ton are bound to letters or F keys with the shots using the # keys. That was Gar's advice and it's worked well-I inititally had a HM/Attack macro bound to A until Gar soundly chastised me so HM is now F2. Frankly I have no clue how some can utilize the keyboard with so many macros. Dedication I spose but I'm old so I've kept the binds and macros as simple and minimal as possible.

I spent some time at the range mucking about with rotation and though my DPS isn't world class by any measure-10500-11k with 0 buffs using a Spirit Wolf, obviously less with the peener I figure it's alright. If I get frisky I'll try with full buffs and procs. Mostly I care less about the recount add-on and more about the 'They're all dead and I'm not' add-on I use Doesn't appear I'm clipping shots, only occasionally mashing a shot button too fast after casting misdirect.

As for useful stuff, I'm sure you already have done this but if not I've found having the trap macro from WHU bound handy. You have to double click it though which is a pain. As I'm addle minded it is of course bound to 'T' Even if you don't use the macro all the time you can activate the launcher and mouseover a trap to launch. Sometimes that's actually easier.

/castsequence [nomod]reset=3 Trap Launcher, Explosive Trap (or whatever your flavor is)

Thx-A

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July 9, 2011
11:55 pm

Darrwyn

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Agio said:

"Doesn't appear I'm clipping shots, only occasionally mashing a shot button too fast after casting misdirect."

Darrwyn's reply:

I read on the WHU site somewhere, sometime, that to be a successful hunter you needed to mash keys endlessly. (Don't ask for where exactly I read it, but read it, I did!) and so I became a masher.

But then….

I started spending time on my mage, which also used a combination of cast and instant spells (shots) and I began to wonder why I was mashing on my hunter, when I didn't on my mage, or my pally, or my shammy…?

So I curbed the tendency to mash, and actually saw an improvement in DPS. What? Unbelievable?

Again, I read somewhere, that with one of the Cata patches, not sure which one, the server actually remembers some keys presses now. Therefore, if you are a key masher, you could find a vital Kill Shot, or Concussive Shot (whatever it is you need NOW!) is delayed by the keypresses stored in the server memory.

I have no proof, I have no scientific evidence, only observation. I religiously use Quartz cast bar so I can try to have one press per shot, and I certainly have noticed Kill Shot and other vital shots going off on my key press, not delayed while arcanes or worse, steadies, keep going off ahead of them.

Try and curb the tendency to mash, that is my advice to all of us…

Cheers,

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