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Help me help a hunter
December 15, 2011
2:39 pm
ferdy30

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I am trying to help a hunter in my raid group bring up his dps before I have to replace him…I have very minimial experience with hunters but was hoping someone could help me or point me in the right direction.

Here is a WoL from last nights Ultraxion fight:

http://worldoflogs.com/reports…..boss=55294

If someone knows a website that walks through looking at hunters in WoL I would be happy to look at that and look through his WoL myself.

 

Here is his armory

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/ch…..x/advanced

 

Thanks for any help

December 16, 2011
6:18 am
Ozolin
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#1 He's missing 3 enchants, those need to be fixed right away. If you're a regular raider, no *way* should you ever be missing enchants (or gems or whatever, but he just needs enchants.)

#2 Is he in Aspect of the Dragonhawk? Pretty sure that fight lets a Hunter stand still, right?

#3 There's gotta be something he's not doing right in his rotation. Is he firing Chimera Shot right when it comes off cd? Is he making sure to have enough Focus to do so? From the logs, it looks like he's using all his shots, but maybe he's not maintaining his 2-Steady Haste bonus? Overcapping Focus too often/not using enough Arcane Shots?

#4 Is he using Rapid Fire & Readiness? MM should get 3-4 Rapid Fires in a boss fight of any length with proper use of Readiness. I would suggest to him, if he's not already, that he macro Rapid Fire with Call of the Wild and maybe a Potion of the Tol'Vir for a big burn boost. 

 

TBH I don't raid as MM more than just a boss or two here and there, but from what I understand, in his gear (once properly enchanted) he should be doing at least 20k, if not 25k+ on a regular basis. Hope this helps.

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December 16, 2011
7:12 am
Takaas
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To add to what Ozolin has pointed out, here are my thoughts thus far.

(1) It may be his rotation or something he isn't doing in his rotation. From the log it looks like he is keeping Improved Steady Shot up. I'm not real sure what he is doing wrong, but with his gear level he should be clearing 20k dps easily.

(2) What pet is he using during the raid? Does he keep his pet consistently attacking?

December 17, 2011
4:53 am
Ryuusenshi

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I took a look through his logs, and this is what I found;

 

The Issues

 

1) His serpent sting is only up 51.8% of all attempts made, and 63.9% on your 6:05 attempt. This should be closer to 85-95% of the fight if not more.

2) On the 6:05 long fight, he used only 4 Aimed Shots from the talent proc and 7 Chimera Shots. This is an indication that he is not using Aimed Shot when it procs for an instant cast as well as not using Chimera Shot often enough when it comes off cooldown.

3) On the 6:05 long fight, he only used 1 hard cast Aimed Shot during the entire fight. This indicates he is not hard casting Aimed Shots under dynamic haste effects, such as Rapid Fire, trinket procs and Bloodlust/Heroism.

4) For CD's and pots on the 6:05 long fight, he used only 1 Tol'vir potion (did he pre-pot or use it after the fact?) he should be able to use 2 during a fight, a Pre-pot before boss pull, and during either a Bloodlust/Heroism or Rapid Fire/Readiness/Call of the Wild. He also used Rapid Fire 3 times along with Call of the Wild twice, as it should be for that buff as it is a 5 minute CD. However with Rapid Fire, in a 6 minute attempt, he should have been able to use 4 of them, which he did not. According to the logs as well, he is not hard casting Aimed Shot during any dynamic haste effects.

5) He is missing enchants, needs to be fixed. These can be found be looking through guides, very simple.

6) He is stacking a ton of haste but not hard casting Aimed Shots outside of dynamic haste effects, which is a major, major waste. He may as well keep a minimal haste plateu, such as 1235+haste accounting for latency, stacking Crit and mastery after that. Crit is always good, he should get more.

7) His spec is slightly gimped, he should have *at least* 1 point in the Termination talent. If you have a druid and a paladin in your raid, he does not need Trueshot Aura, as the 10%, 20% attk pwr buffs will be applied by Blessing of Might.

8 ) He also has the Tier 13 2pc for Hunter's. He could be hitting the focus cap, therefore wasting focus and costing himself dps, especially at that amount of haste. If this is the case, he needs to correct it immediately with obviously more Chimera Shots, which he should be doing anyways, along with Arcane Shots due to the amount of Focus being returned by Steady Shot. Steady Shot should also always be shot in pairs of 2, some exceptions can apply.

 

What Do I Do Now?

 

Have him research his class and tell him to use sites such as this to gain help on the forums or WarcraftHuntersUnion.com to search up a guide for his spec and rotations, haste plateau's and so on. If he is going to raid in a guild, he needs to spend the time to research his class and know what he is doing, logs will tell you everything if you know where to look and how to find it.

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