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Ancient Petrified Seed
July 7, 2011
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So I've been searching around and I can't find any solid numbers for this trinket. Does anyone know just how good it is for MM, whether it's worth using over Fluid Death, or perhaps can lead me to a site that does? I checked warcrafthuntersunion.com as well I've tested it on zeherah's analyzer and I'm not convinced. Any input would be very much appreciated!

July 7, 2011
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July 7, 2011
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I hesitate any time I am presented with an "on-use" option for trinkets. Generally speaking I don't like them, but in the case of the Seed I will likely have to wait until I can run more numbers. If I got it I'd probably use it, but I'll defer to WHU and likely not seek it out, sepcifically.

Re-reading that, it's not very helpful is it? LOL Sorry!

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July 7, 2011
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There's a good trinket analysis at WHU: http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2011/06/4-2-trinket-rundown/

 

I have yet to see static proc rates from the new firelands trinkets, and am hearing that the Darkmoon Cards got nerfed?

July 7, 2011
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From what I understand (which isn't much, so bear with me) the nerf is that "[Darkmoon Card: Hurricane] can no longer deal critical strikes and no longer receives any modifiers to its damage from the equipping player."

So it no longer scales with gear except with Haste; maybe more of a blow to Shaman users than Hunters? I guess it wouldn't benefit from out Crit% or Mastery, which is bad, but I would have to test it to see if it's a dps loss.

I will say, I suddenly fear I've accidentally tossed out Fluid Death lol.

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October 17, 2011
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I have FD & The Hungerer. Based on WHU's analysis, Seed still isn't better than FD, largely due to it's on-use abilty rather than being an on-equip trinket. That said, now that I can buy Seed I am going to do some testing on the dummies. I suspect I'll find that my current pairing is still the best matchup prior to Matrix Restabilizer.

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November 4, 2011
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I had this same dilemma as I managed to hit revered for the seed AND win the hungerer in the same night… was like Zomg what do i do!?!? LOL  But after testing on the dummies and then in practical use running a BWD 25 switching them up halfway thru, I found the the FD and Hungerer are a better combo, and I will continue to use FD til Rags gives up that shiny one he's got!

November 15, 2011
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One thing occurred to me as I'm reading this thread and thinking scenarios. Wouldn't Ancient Petrified Seed be most useful for a Survival hunter, where extra agility is always a plus and mastery actually provides a decent damage increase? Of course, I have no numbers to back this up. It's just pure speculation.

November 15, 2011
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I've yet to test the Seed v. FD in my SV rotation but I will! And I'll post results when I can.

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November 15, 2011
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I'm actually using Essence of the Cyclone/The Hungerer right now. 

Just playing with the calculators over at http://www.femaledwarf.com, it looks like swapping in the Seed, or even Fluid Death, will result in a DPS loss. 

I still want to do some testing on the dummies.

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November 15, 2011
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Color me curious, but shouldn't using Fluid Death be better than Essence of the Cyclone? Since I already have Matrix Restabilizer, would Essence of the Cyclone actually be better when I run Survival?

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