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Hunter Spec People Are PvPing In
January 30, 2012
2:47 pm
Takaas
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Just some personal observation, nothing "by the numbers" here.

In a total of 20 battlegrounds I encountered………

28 Marksmanship

25 Beastmaster

6 Survival

January 31, 2012
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Which is a fair indicator of why I don't really PvP- I've been SV longer than I can remember, and my UI & my hotbars & everything I do is set up for SV. I can play the other specs, but it's just not comfortable for me and thus makes it much less enjoyable, and so I rarely do. <shrugs>

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January 31, 2012
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Which makes sense Ozolin. In my limited time of playing I've only played BM, have no interest in learning MM or SV as I don't enjoy them. Could I learn them? Sure but why? It's a game and I like to have fun playing games and I like BM and everything I have keybound or whatever is for BM as yours is SV. 

PvP is loaded with expert hunters, actually those that think they are but considering their records etc, well maybe not so much, so that alone makes it a marginal pain in the ass. "ZOMG Survival??!!??? LOL NOOB" You can insert BM in here too as MM is the only spec to play so I've been told. Course these are your PvP lifers who loiter in Golsdhire on Alliance side and show off their mounts while pasting their latest achievement,  the dicks who spit on opponents etc., rave about how much damage they do in a BG and how leet they are in Arena-with their BDK pard, so what the hell. The really good hunters with the rare exception that I've played with type little and just take care of business.

That being said, you might surprise yourself in PvP. Course if you don't find it enjoyable, who cares?

Not knowing you aren't supposed to be able to achieve something often ensures that you will.   Book of Agio 22:2
January 31, 2012
9:37 am
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Slightly off-topic, my apologies: A Priest friend of mine has been doing a ton more PvP lately than ever before, and listening to her regale tales of the battlegrounds, I've come to the conclusion that if I had a steady group of PvP buddies, it might turn out to be a good time, indeed. I can absolutely see the draw. I'd likely pursue it running as BM, since I've got a handy-dandy guide right here at the Lodge!

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January 31, 2012
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Agio said

 

PvP is loaded with expert hunters, actually those that think they are but considering their records etc, well maybe not so much, so that alone makes it a marginal pain in the ass. "ZOMG Survival??!!??? LOL NOOB" You can insert BM in here too as MM is the only spec to play so I've been told. Course these are your PvP lifers who loiter in Golsdhire on Alliance side and show off their mounts while pasting their latest achievement,  the dicks who spit on opponents etc., rave about how much damage they do in a BG and how leet they are in Arena-with their BDK pard, so what the hell. The really good hunters with the rare exception that I've played with type little and just take care of business.

 

For the record, I'm not one of "those" MM Hunters who play the spec because it's what people are saying is the "ultimate" PvP spec. I play it because I enjoy it and have been playing it LONG before it became so popular.

Also, I get just the opposite of Agio. Everyone I've talked to say to PvP as BM, MM is to hard to PvP as and SV sucks at PvP. While I certainly agree that SV is lacking in the PvP area, I don't totally rule it out and certainly don't harass those I find PvPing in the spec. As for BM, I think its a great PvP spec and definately can hold its own in PvP, but I like and enjoy pvping as MM.

Oh, and …………..

I don't have a spider at all. My "active" roster of pets for PvPing:

(1) monkey (for those pesky Rogues and Feral Druids)

(2) ape (pummel + silencing shot = fun for casters)

(3) carrion bird (disarming other Hunters and Ret Pallies, the occasional Rogue, DK or Warrior. I shy away from sending my pet in against Warriors and DKs, so that they can't self heal themselves.)

(4) wolf (for an extra boost in dps when I need to burn something down quick)

Note: I also use my wolf for raiding and my 5th pet slot is filled by my hyena, Spaz who is mostly for rping purposes.

January 31, 2012
7:44 pm
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For the record, no clue why you thought any of my post was directed towards you Takaas. It wasn't. I was and am typing about A) Hunters, I have had direct interaction with or have observed in game or B) Posts and comments made on a lot of PvP oriented sites etc. by Hunters. I read a lot about hunterin. From past experience the dick quotient is always higher in any on-line game in the PvP area and again from past experience the truly good players talk little and do much and you can learn from em. They're willing to offer constructive criticism if you ask or they may make a suggestion. Our host and what he comments about and allows on his site would be a very good example of this I think yes? Yes there are top notch players who are dicks and who think mashing keys is thier life calling but that is the nature of life. They aren't tolerated here right? I'm typing abut the people with a lot to say about how one plays or how they 'should' play when they themselves really aren't that good. By my definition of good anyhow. An Arena rating of 1750 or 1900 n change in 2's/3's doesn't make me go weak at the knees though I'd be pleased if I ever got up thereicon_smile  5's and rated BG's, well those are a long ways off for this kid. But, if, after 4-6 yrs of pretty active PvP, you haven't achieved some level of proficiency I'd say checkers is your true calling. If you have achieved it and think it matters to the point where you're obnoxious then you need to get out more.

Can't recall you ever doing that in any way shape or form so you misinterpreted my comments. You posted an observation, Oz typed something and I did too. S'far as I can recall in my time around the Lodge you've always played MM which illustrates my point about me n playing BM with zero interest in learning another spec. Too much work for this boy.

Whether BM is 'better' or 'easier' for PvP nowadays I wouldn't know. Given I suck at PvP, have only played BM, hell I've only played a hunter in WoW, I'm the wrong person to comment on that. I simply don't like dicks, don't tolerate em in RL so I definitely won't tolerate playing with em in a game. I find them amusing and have much fun at their expense.

Oz, that's exactly what I'm trying to find and have been since I ventured into PvP land lil over 3 mos ago. A nice tidy little group who play on a regular basis. Was my intent from the get-go. Given I'm a nasty mean-spirited noob dwarf hunter, believe me,  it ain't no duckwalk. lol.

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January 31, 2012
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Agio said

For the record, no clue why you thought any of my post was directed towards you Takaas. It wasn't. I was and am typing about A) Hunters, I have had direct interaction with or have observed in game or B) Posts and comments made on a lot of PvP oriented sites etc. by Hunters. I read a lot about hunterin. From past experience the dick quotient is always higher in any on-line game in the PvP area and again from past experience the truly good players talk little and do much and you can learn from em. They're willing to offer constructive criticism if you ask or they may make a suggestion. Our host and what he comments about and allows on his site would be a very good example of this I think yes? Yes there are top notch players who are dicks and who think mashing keys is thier life calling but that is the nature of life. They aren't tolerated here right? I'm typing abut the people with a lot to say about how one plays or how they 'should' play when they themselves really aren't that good. By my definition of good anyhow. An Arena rating of 1750 or 1900 n change in 2's/3's doesn't make me go weak at the knees though I'd be pleased if I ever got up thereicon_smile  5's and rated BG's, well those are a long ways off for this kid. But, if, after 4-6 yrs of pretty active PvP, you haven't achieved some level of proficiency I'd say checkers is your true calling. If you have achieved it and think it matters to the point where you're obnoxious then you need to get out more.

Can't recall you ever doing that in any way shape or form so you misinterpreted my comments. You posted an observation, Oz typed something and I did too. S'far as I can recall in my time around the Lodge you've always played MM which illustrates my point about me n playing BM with zero interest in learning another spec. Too much work for this boy.

Whether BM is 'better' or 'easier' for PvP nowadays I wouldn't know. Given I suck at PvP, have only played BM, hell I've only played a hunter in WoW, I'm the wrong person to comment on that. I simply don't like dicks, don't tolerate em in RL so I definitely won't tolerate playing with em in a game. I find them amusing and have much fun at their expense.

Oz, that's exactly what I'm trying to find and have been since I ventured into PvP land lil over 3 mos ago. A nice tidy little group who play on a regular basis. Was my intent from the get-go. Given I'm a nasty mean-spirited noob dwarf hunter, believe me,  it ain't no duckwalk. lol.

Now that I look at it, I guess my reply came across wrong. I did not want to make it sound like you (Agio) was pointing a finger at me, it was not my intention. I was attempting to be funny and it didn't come out that way. I'm not the greatest at portraying in words my feelings or intent. I've never been offended or such by your posts/comments.

January 31, 2012
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Just a side note:  Don't rule SV out of your PvP efforts all together.  Although I still think it might be a bit too clunky in arena, I think it is a very viable BG spec – especially with the 4.3.2 buffs/fixes leading to increased dps and more consistent LnL procs.  I hopped in a random BG last week and it wouldn't let me switch to my BM spec once I was in (I raid SV).  I was pleasantly surprised to see how effective it was – especially when lock n load procced and I popped the rabid/trink macro.  Pity the fool on the other end of that.

You will find yourself frustrated enough in BG's regardless of which spec you choose – so just play the one you enjoy and are comfortable with and ask the dicks how you became so important that you could lose the BG all my yourself. 

 

p.s.  Agio and Tak – you guys crack me up!!  icon_smile 

February 1, 2012
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TAKAAS ISN'T FUNNY!

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Sorry, that was purely trolling. I have said all I will say of worth & value for this topic.

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