Agio's Official Six Week PvP Report. - Hunter PvP Discussion - Hunter Forums
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10:35 pm
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April 10, 2010
OfflineSo it's been six weeks since I embarked on the PvP side of life and here, as always are my incredibly insightful observations n meanderings.
1. The Alliance side on my server is emotionally attached to the Waterworks in The Batlle for Gilneas. As it's a random BG, I can only assume this is a game wide attachment. If anyone has any lore about the Waterworks and the Alliance need for it , do tell.
2. Planning strategy in random BG's is akin to herding cats cept the cats are smarter. "Alright everyone go to LH, then Mines and we'll cc em on the boat" "Okay! will do" Then 8 of em f**k off to the Waterworks. See above.
3. I think Druids and Warriors and Rogues are underpowered.
4. Mages, Priests, Paladins and DK's as well. Only Hunters are overpowered. We have Scattershot!
5. Aside from getting lucky and sneaking up on a rogue weasel and blasting the hell out of him/her/it there is nothing more amusing than inspirational Battleground chat. "OMG this group is so suckishly bad, Alliance sucks!" "You all suck" "Man if I only had the right gear" "Nice heals idiots" The last one really cracks me up given those players typically die much more quickly and frequently after that comment.
6. I'm in love with any and all good healers, non-gender specific. Two hunters, one good healer= killing machine.
7. I'm not sure why we have traps given the only class that dosn't ignore, blast through em or are immune to them are other hunters. They surely do look stylish launching though.
8. I've hired a personal assistant , hooked her up to another screen and keyboard and she handles all the damn macros I need just to survive. May need another.
9. When you have "Roar of Sacrifice" in a mouseover macro, best to have the pet that has that ability specced out with you.
10. I figured when I stopped doing the Molten Front Dailies and tamed all those gd spiders that'd be the end of it. Nope, more spiders in a BG than on Widow's Clutch anyday anytime.
11. People seem to have a disturbing fondness for recount. I think it blows.
12. Why you can exchange valor points for top tier PvP gear yet only do Rated BG's or Arena to obtain it via PvP is a mystery to me and I think, one of Blizzards best ideas yet.
13. A skilled hunter, of which I am not one, in a BG is a marvel to watch.
14. Unfortunately, there seems to be a large, almost huge number of hunters PvP'ing that really should do some reading about the class. "Plink, plink. backpedal" must be a raid thing? If only there was a place or places on the innernets that provided such info. A Hunter Site with guides would be a fantastic idea. That is coming from me so you know they must be umm… hunter challenged.
15. Hunters who backpedal look so cool, calmly dealing out nifty damage from afar whilst not movin and then, oops rogue/warrior/druid gang rape and they kiss the spirit healer.
16. As a dwarf I think I need longer legs so I can run away faster from, well pretty much every other class.
17. My left hand fingers are getting quite buffed. My pinky is bench pressing 215Lbs.
18. I take mana cakes off a mage table out of spite.
19. In BG chat there are two types of Generals-your Patton types who know and type everything in caps and piss everyone off and your Ike types who think Hunters are like you know, the bait, just like the allies were in WWII.
20. Popping off Kill Command on any type of vehicle cracks me up.
21. Many of the macros written for hunters are rather hard to execute properly.
22. Gettin camped at a rez site is hilarious.
23. How people can type so much chat and try to fight is a puzzle to me. These utes and their leet multi-tasking.
24. I am thinking an aerospace engineering degree would've been easier than learning to play a hunter half-assed decently in PvP. Probably take less time.
25. How can you take a player with a decent rated BG number, over 50k kills, geared to the nuts who says to other players in the group "God you people are so fail" seriously?
26. The snivel factor in BG's astounds me.
27. In an average sized BG, if the other team has 3-4 players from the same server and they move as a group, consider yourself screwed. I want me one of those.
28. It happens rarely but when you're in a group that shuts the hell up, no chitty-chat and just plays and you know, gets it , that is enormously fun. Especially as my poor play is hidden amongst the good play. Win, win.
29. According to my ace Accountant, if I only do Random BG's I will be 107 yrs old before I have the top tier PvP gear.
30. Overall PvP is much fun and yes, my quest for mediocrity continues unabated.
11:26 pm

Officer
May 28, 2010
Offline3:16 am
Soldier
September 14, 2010
OfflineI too love the people that sit and tell everyone how they suck. I try to have a little fun with it with statements like:
"well when i grow up i want to bwe just like you"
or "i will take your advice as long as mommy starts paying for my account too.
I can go an intire BG just messing with the idiots. I can usally tell by the way they are typing that they are getting pissed because i rarely stop at just one comment. I will sit in my chair laughing my ass off while trying to make this idiot pissed off. especially the people that are talking that have one kill telling everyone else how good they are. lol
I totally agree with you on all 30 points you made.
Yag
9:13 am
Veteran
April 10, 2010
OfflineAs the above was written after a particularly grueling run of BG's last night, after a solid nights sleep I have more clarity, thusly more philisophical profundity to add. Given my sad abilities as a PvPer and my lengthy experience, hey you get what you pay for. Give me 6 yrs at PvP and I'd still suck.
31. As for the 'chatters' who I can only guess mistook a BG for trolling trade chat in their respective capital city I don't comment much. My speeches, which are becoming reknowned the WoW world over are only before the BG starts when any player asks "strat?" I say unto all "How's bout no whining about how we all suck, play lots type little and if you don't like it fack off, go with God"
Oh my other special, which drives the lil Napoleons shit nuts is reserved for the Strand of the Ancients assault. 'Strat?" an I say "Let's all stay on the boat" Drives em crazy.
32. I've been asked by quite a few players to do rated BG or Arena after a BG which A) Shows you the sad state of PvP on my server and B) These people must be drunk so I tell em to sober up and revisit the offer at a later date.
If I can ever seamlessly execute a scattershot trap, Masters Call, intimidation, Roar of Sac (provided I'm not you know, using a spirit beast so the macro does dick) jump disengage sequence and pop off a couple shots then dive back into the fray, I'll consider it. As that ain't ever going to happen, I'm saving many players from horrific losses. However while I don't want to sound arrogant in WSG, Gilneas and all other 10 v 10's I'm consistently in the top 10 for kills. AV, never below the top 25.
33. I've noticed two types of whiners. The 1st constantly type about how bad everyone is and the 2nd bitch mightily then leave the BG. I find the 2nd the scuzziest wimps.
34. While watching ego videos by players can be helpful I prefer guides unless the vid is actually informative. Practice of course is the best and actually watching a skilled hunter live and in color in a BG is one of the best ways to learn. Course while you're watching them a fkn druid nails you for a 65k crit and a rogue finishes you off so you take your chances.
35. Monkeys as a pet are great but make me laugh too much when they toss crap in the other players face.
36. Though I respect much of the advice given I wonder how in the hell you have time to switch pets in a raging BG. I can dismiss whatever pet I'm using and summon my #1 and that's about it. I'm sure there's another goddamn macro out there for ultimate pet switching and I don't want to know it.
37. Don't use scare beast on a warlocks 'pet'
38. By the time you use scare beast on a druid in animal form, as I've read you can in theory do, odds are you're gonna be dead.
39. Rogues have a ginormous fkn toolbox. I mean wtf is up with 'Sap'? Talk about rendering a hunter and pet useless.
40. If you want to take one for the team run with the flag carrier. When the rush comes druids and rogues are hardwired to attack hunters. It's in their DNA, they can't help themselves so no matter what is going on, they'll switch from the FC to you and the FC will continue on while you perish.
41. There is nothing cooler than two players who simultaneously kill each other in an epic fight.
42. There is nothing more hilarious than winning an epic battle and while happily patting yourself on the back for your leetness and surviving with only 12k hp left, dying from lingering DoT's.
43. When someone takes my insignia I figure I musta really pissed em off or their food stamps ran out.
44. Pet control is a skill unto itself.
45. I never knew that a hunter was considered a ranged class.
46. Aside from targetting a stealthed rogue with a handy dandy macro, using Serpent Sting gets you a lot of Horde laughter and mocking type emotes.
47. I have, I must confess, actually thought the term 'huntard' a few times while in a BG. Particularly Eye of the Storm. I thought the concept was controlling the towers. I dunno what it is but that fkn useless middle flag is a magnet to hunters. Rogues know this and consistently gank em but these hunters are like the Energizer Bunny, they just keep goin n goin.
48. I've been playing a baby hunter for practice-now L32 and while we are stupidly deadly in the lower levels, that ends rather quickly as the other classes grow up. I don't whine but hunters are broken. I'm thinking Blizzard modelled us after those medieval archers who stood way back and plinked away but if anything got near em, they were pretty much facked. They did give us a pet though-that was nice. I've no answers, just my one snivel.
49. You need a special kind of stupid to play a hunter in PvP and I have it. That being said, if you ever do get proficient-which I wont, I'd say you are a good player-very.
50. Given we for the most part seem to have the odds stacked against us, I'm having more fun playing WoW as a hunter in PvP than I ever have.
9:23 am
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February 24, 2011
Offline11:02 am

Officer
May 28, 2010
OfflineBesides the ones you mention Agio, I love the players with egos that match the class they are playing. I lost count of the number of Druids who laugh emote me or spit on me after I've kited their ass all over the battleground in a failed attempt to either get away from the bastard or somehow manage to beat him.
4:52 pm
Veteran
April 10, 2010
OfflineYanno Tak, I hear ya but the emotes and such don't bother me all that much. Besides I've watched enough hunter ego stroke vids to know the asshole quotient exists there too. I figure they all have tiny wee wees.
But to your point about kiting a druid-that I understand. You do everything 'right' against them, whittle em down to 20-30hp and get ready to pop em and then wham they're back up at 100k+hp , toast you and behave like it was skill. That does get irritating. It's like why in the fk am I bothering? The seemingly bottomless pit of self healing abilities of the other classes does get on my nerves.
I've learned a fair amount on my lil hunter guy about the mechanics of the other classes as they aren't yet stupid powerful like they are at 85. Has helped with rogues, some of yer pally, moonies and magic tossers. Arms Warriors, now they do puzzle me.
Malice-I love the random BG's. If I could buy a friend I'd be all set. Give me a healer and another hunter who can make up for my crappy play and you have a kickass combo. Droods squeal when ya kill em.
@ Agio: I laughed so hard I almost snorted my Mountain Dew. Good one, kind sir, good one. 
#1: Behold, I have lore on the Waterworks in Battle for Gilneas. Stay awhile and listen! Once upon a time there be twin bows of rain in yon waterfall behind the shacks…
#5 and #23: I often get the feeling these guys find a nice nook to hide in, then start typing up a storm. Once I even killed a Shaman who was hanging out under the huge staircase in Twin Peaks for heaven knows what. Obviously he wasn't even AFK as he tried to fight back once the arrows started flying. On another occasion it was a DK on a ledge near the Alliance starting cave in Alterac Valley–who obviously ALSO wasn't AFK as he decided to move after my pet began chewing on his leg. My last one, however, wasn't so successful: I got roflstomped by a Frost Mage who Engineer-stealthed in the Frostwolf GY after my modem decided it was a good time to zone out and reset my internet connection (we won the BG anyway, but…yeah).
#31 is pure gold.
#33: Apart from people who actually *have* to leave the BG due to RL needs, I don't get those types either. Win or lose we'll still be getting HPs anyway, why suffer the Deserter debuff for 15 minutes?
#42: Intervene can prevent forest fires!
@ Ozolin: Hey, maybe I can get back on MG, level my huntlet to 85 (Aggie, are you already on MG?) and the three of us can run a few regular BGs while singing the lyrics to the theme song from Walt Disney's The Three Caballeros over vent. The BG will end up being so painfully mediocre that Deathwing would probably spawn and fry everyone in it out of spite, then fly around and do it a few more times. ![]()
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