Comments on: Beast Mastery PvP Spec Redux http://huntsmanslodge.com/5560/beast-mastery-pvp-spec-redux.htm A site for WoW Hunters :: News, Information, Resources and more Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:31:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Garwulf http://huntsmanslodge.com/5560/beast-mastery-pvp-spec-redux.htm#comment-6630 Garwulf Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:30:52 +0000 http://huntsmanslodge.com/?p=5560#comment-6630 Stephen, Sorry I lagged so bad with my response to your question. :( As for Rogue BM, I think it could be a fun combo that might enjoy some success if you both are seasoned PvPers and coordinate well. It will really probably be contingent upon how good your Rogue is though. Rogues can be burned down pretty quickly without a healer, so you'd better plan your openers quickly and execute them well. if you can incapacitate one target long enough for you and your partner to go to work on the other, then I could see it being a fun combo. My suggestion though, try it out and see. Give it a few weeks, as the first 2 weeks of the season will typically be the toughest, that is until you get to the higher brackets. I'd suggest going with a lot of resilience and possibly a Battlemaster's trinket. Until your Rogue's popped, you'll be public enemy number one. You'll need to be able to survive long enough to drop at least one opponent. I'd suggest a Core Hound for your pet, since you'll be needing all the burst you can get. I'm anxious to know how it works out if you should decide to try it. I'm one to mainly play with friends, regardless of class/spec. I've played a few seasons with an Arms Warrior partner, which is a somewhat similar comp. We made it to the 1800s, which was nothing to brag about, but at least we had some fun. :D Stephen,

Sorry I lagged so bad with my response to your question. :(

As for Rogue BM, I think it could be a fun combo that might enjoy some success if you both are seasoned PvPers and coordinate well. It will really probably be contingent upon how good your Rogue is though. Rogues can be burned down pretty quickly without a healer, so you’d better plan your openers quickly and execute them well.

if you can incapacitate one target long enough for you and your partner to go to work on the other, then I could see it being a fun combo. My suggestion though, try it out and see. Give it a few weeks, as the first 2 weeks of the season will typically be the toughest, that is until you get to the higher brackets.

I’d suggest going with a lot of resilience and possibly a Battlemaster’s trinket. Until your Rogue’s popped, you’ll be public enemy number one. You’ll need to be able to survive long enough to drop at least one opponent. I’d suggest a Core Hound for your pet, since you’ll be needing all the burst you can get.

I’m anxious to know how it works out if you should decide to try it. I’m one to mainly play with friends, regardless of class/spec. I’ve played a few seasons with an Arms Warrior partner, which is a somewhat similar comp. We made it to the 1800s, which was nothing to brag about, but at least we had some fun. :D

]]> By: Garwulf http://huntsmanslodge.com/5560/beast-mastery-pvp-spec-redux.htm#comment-6605 Garwulf Sun, 31 Jan 2010 05:24:41 +0000 http://huntsmanslodge.com/?p=5560#comment-6605 OMG. That stuff looks hideous. Yeah, I'll be posting a preview of that probably tomorrow. OMG. That stuff looks hideous.

Yeah, I’ll be posting a preview of that probably tomorrow.

]]> By: Perceuss http://huntsmanslodge.com/5560/beast-mastery-pvp-spec-redux.htm#comment-6604 Perceuss Sun, 31 Jan 2010 04:15:51 +0000 http://huntsmanslodge.com/?p=5560#comment-6604 Is there going to be a thread for how hideous the new PvP gear for hunters looks? Is there going to be a thread for how hideous the new PvP gear for hunters looks?

]]> By: Stephen http://huntsmanslodge.com/5560/beast-mastery-pvp-spec-redux.htm#comment-6563 Stephen Tue, 26 Jan 2010 07:42:37 +0000 http://huntsmanslodge.com/?p=5560#comment-6563 Gar, Question, I have contemplated starting a 2v2 team.Currently I am specd SV and dealing out a fair amount of DPS in raids. I started specd BM and was told that it wasn't the prefered raiding spec. My question is, what do you think of a BM hunter/rogue combo? Thanks, Stephen Gar,
Question, I have contemplated starting a 2v2 team.Currently I am specd SV and dealing out a fair amount of DPS in raids. I started specd BM and was told that it wasn’t the prefered raiding spec. My question is, what do you think of a BM hunter/rogue combo?

Thanks,
Stephen

]]> By: Sinvictus http://huntsmanslodge.com/5560/beast-mastery-pvp-spec-redux.htm#comment-6555 Sinvictus Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:56:06 +0000 http://huntsmanslodge.com/?p=5560#comment-6555 I just recently got into pvp last couple of months or so. I've been doing BM the whole time, recently decided to try MM, did very poorly, and decided instead to switch back to BM and try to improve my skill with it. Really appreciate the talent build definitely gonna try it out. Can you tell my what shot rotation you use as BM? I know I wasn't doing it right before but didn't really give it much thought till now. Do you use steady shot at all in BG's? I completely ignored it so far as it seems the opportunities to use it are few and far between. Thanks for any suggestions. I just recently got into pvp last couple of months or so. I’ve been doing BM the whole time, recently decided to try MM, did very poorly, and decided instead to switch back to BM and try to improve my skill with it. Really appreciate the talent build definitely gonna try it out. Can you tell my what shot rotation you use as BM? I know I wasn’t doing it right before but didn’t really give it much thought till now. Do you use steady shot at all in BG’s? I completely ignored it so far as it seems the opportunities to use it are few and far between. Thanks for any suggestions.

]]> By: Laikah http://huntsmanslodge.com/5560/beast-mastery-pvp-spec-redux.htm#comment-6542 Laikah Sun, 24 Jan 2010 05:10:57 +0000 http://huntsmanslodge.com/?p=5560#comment-6542 Hey Gar! Just went BM for the first time thanks to all of your posts praising it. This is my very first time playing the spec and i'm already having fun with my burninating machine :) Hey Gar!
Just went BM for the first time thanks to all of your posts praising it. This is my very first time playing the spec and i’m already having fun with my burninating machine :)

]]> By: Garwulf http://huntsmanslodge.com/5560/beast-mastery-pvp-spec-redux.htm#comment-6528 Garwulf Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:05:21 +0000 http://huntsmanslodge.com/?p=5560#comment-6528 I definitely think you'll get a lot more from CS than IAotM. That talent was nice back when we had the glyph, but not so great anymore. I definitely think you’ll get a lot more from CS than IAotM. That talent was nice back when we had the glyph, but not so great anymore.

]]> By: Snoggi http://huntsmanslodge.com/5560/beast-mastery-pvp-spec-redux.htm#comment-6527 Snoggi Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:49:07 +0000 http://huntsmanslodge.com/?p=5560#comment-6527 Well, I do apologize for not taking something just by looking at your eyes. I will test it myself, however, since I am often facing Death Knights, Warriors and Paladins, I'm not too sure I want to drop the dodge unless the damage is a lot higher. Well, I do apologize for not taking something just by looking at your eyes. I will test it myself, however, since I am often facing Death Knights, Warriors and Paladins, I’m not too sure I want to drop the dodge unless the damage is a lot higher.

]]> By: Garwulf http://huntsmanslodge.com/5560/beast-mastery-pvp-spec-redux.htm#comment-6524 Garwulf Thu, 21 Jan 2010 21:23:42 +0000 http://huntsmanslodge.com/?p=5560#comment-6524 Snoggi, Your response actually insinuates that it sounds good in theory, but doesn't look good on paper. I'm not one to pore through calculations and spend a bunch of time theorycrafting, especially for PvP. Napkin math isn't quite as relevant for PvP. Situations are ever changing and enemies' resistance and reactions will never be the same. Having said that, I just try out ideas, and if they offer me more success then great. if not, i go back to the drawing board til I find something that does. 3/3 Cobra Strikes works. The s**t procs a lot more than you'd be inclined to think. In BGs, I get quite a few steady shots off. CS procs like crazy. In arena, not as much. Still... I would estimate that I see at least 4-6 procs in a 45 second to 1 min match, where as before I'd get maybe one or two on average. It really boils down to where else to spend those points..? What else will give you the same value, if not more. For me, it's been a noticeable DPS increase for me in both BGs and arena. If you're BM speccced for PvP, why not try it for yourself and see if you agree? Snoggi,

Your response actually insinuates that it sounds good in theory, but doesn’t look good on paper. I’m not one to pore through calculations and spend a bunch of time theorycrafting, especially for PvP. Napkin math isn’t quite as relevant for PvP. Situations are ever changing and enemies’ resistance and reactions will never be the same.

Having said that, I just try out ideas, and if they offer me more success then great. if not, i go back to the drawing board til I find something that does.

3/3 Cobra Strikes works. The s**t procs a lot more than you’d be inclined to think.

In BGs, I get quite a few steady shots off. CS procs like crazy. In arena, not as much. Still… I would estimate that I see at least 4-6 procs in a 45 second to 1 min match, where as before I’d get maybe one or two on average.

It really boils down to where else to spend those points..? What else will give you the same value, if not more. For me, it’s been a noticeable DPS increase for me in both BGs and arena.

If you’re BM speccced for PvP, why not try it for yourself and see if you agree?

]]> By: Snoggi http://huntsmanslodge.com/5560/beast-mastery-pvp-spec-redux.htm#comment-6522 Snoggi Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:46:02 +0000 http://huntsmanslodge.com/?p=5560#comment-6522 It sounds pretty well on paper, but I'm not entirely convinced yet. With your crit chance (33%), lowered by the enemys resilience (-10%?), Cobra Reflexes has a chance of 23%*60%=13.8% to proc. That's not a lot, roughly once every 42 seconds if you only use Arcane Shot. Kill Command however, also increase your pet's critical chance by 20% during 3 special attacks. The basic question that I have for you is thus: how often are you able to use Steady Shot in arena's? It sounds pretty well on paper, but I’m not entirely convinced yet. With your crit chance (33%), lowered by the enemys resilience (-10%?), Cobra Reflexes has a chance of 23%*60%=13.8% to proc. That’s not a lot, roughly once every 42 seconds if you only use Arcane Shot.

Kill Command however, also increase your pet’s critical chance by 20% during 3 special attacks.

The basic question that I have for you is thus:

how often are you able to use Steady Shot in arena’s?

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