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	<title>Comments on: Hunter CC: Dead and Buried, or just comatose?</title>
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		<title>By: Huntingfolks</title>
		<link>http://huntsmanslodge.com/5231/hunter-cc-dead-and-buried-or-just-comatose.htm#comment-5559</link>
		<dc:creator>Huntingfolks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 08:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my guild i am one of the core 5 man group, so on patch night we went for it, full blast and balls to the wall.  We aquired the quest and started the new content on heroic even.  We ran through the first 2 instances with little to no problems, and like most we were floored in HOR.  Not once or twice but 4 whipes back to back, granted it was 4am at this point, but stil we just got creamed.  The next day i threw out my BM spec and brought back the trusted SV, even though i can never pull the same DPS from it as i get from MM, i know the CC is there.  The next couple of days went by and i tried to wait for the fab 5 to get back together and own that hell hole, but alas another invite came and off i went.  This time the tank knew the LOS trick with the 2 side areas, so behind the wall we hid and cake it was......Sad i was not to be able to shine in use with my old CC tricks being appreciated again, but a winn is a win.  We often look back to the days of &quot;vanilla wow&quot; and among the lost skills is CC unfortunatly, but this new patch has shown us that wow has thought of this as well and i believe that our skills will once again be required..And if looking at the new t10 set bonusus doesn&#039;t let u know that our role in the end game content is going to be one of the utmost importance, then i don&#039;t know what kind of slap you need.  Our new set bonuses are so OP, that when the new expansion comes out you&#039;d be fail not to include a hunter in your group :).....That being said,&quot;brush the dust from your CC skills, bring them back to your action bars, because this hunter believes that the days of AOE burns are about to pass..And the days of CC skill ahall be reborn,,,,,,and if not it&#039;ll still be fun to show off while you warm up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my guild i am one of the core 5 man group, so on patch night we went for it, full blast and balls to the wall.  We aquired the quest and started the new content on heroic even.  We ran through the first 2 instances with little to no problems, and like most we were floored in HOR.  Not once or twice but 4 whipes back to back, granted it was 4am at this point, but stil we just got creamed.  The next day i threw out my BM spec and brought back the trusted SV, even though i can never pull the same DPS from it as i get from MM, i know the CC is there.  The next couple of days went by and i tried to wait for the fab 5 to get back together and own that hell hole, but alas another invite came and off i went.  This time the tank knew the LOS trick with the 2 side areas, so behind the wall we hid and cake it was&#8230;&#8230;Sad i was not to be able to shine in use with my old CC tricks being appreciated again, but a winn is a win.  We often look back to the days of &#8220;vanilla wow&#8221; and among the lost skills is CC unfortunatly, but this new patch has shown us that wow has thought of this as well and i believe that our skills will once again be required..And if looking at the new t10 set bonusus doesn&#8217;t let u know that our role in the end game content is going to be one of the utmost importance, then i don&#8217;t know what kind of slap you need.  Our new set bonuses are so OP, that when the new expansion comes out you&#8217;d be fail not to include a hunter in your group <img src='http://huntsmanslodge.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8230;..That being said,&#8221;brush the dust from your CC skills, bring them back to your action bars, because this hunter believes that the days of AOE burns are about to pass..And the days of CC skill ahall be reborn,,,,,,and if not it&#8217;ll still be fun to show off while you warm up.</p>
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		<title>By: Lesuen</title>
		<link>http://huntsmanslodge.com/5231/hunter-cc-dead-and-buried-or-just-comatose.htm#comment-5441</link>
		<dc:creator>Lesuen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 02:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I try to use CC when I can, and yes, HoR is that *one instance* where you really need to learn to use it, but I haven&#039;t found any pugs that can do it well. Blizzard has spent an entire expansion breaking the habit of CC that people just don&#039;t know how to do it anymore. I know how to use it only because in The Burning Crusade, priests used Shackle macros in Karazhan or they didn&#039;t go raiding.

As a hunter nowadays, I feel like the old lady on the porch waving her rocker at the kids on the lawn. &quot;In my day, you CC&#039;d or you died, there was no AOE tanking! Well, except maybe paladins but they were OP! OP I say!&quot; I pew pew like a hunter should, but I know how to use most of my buttons (even the least used ones are off to the side of my hotbars, waiting to be clicked some day!) and Freezing Trap will always be next to Disengage.

I will always remember my good hunter buddy, Stoutbear the dorf Survival hunter of Burning Crusade, and his amazing ability to trap not one, not two, but THREE mobs at once, with careful use of cooldowns, timing, and pure skill of his class. Stoutbear, if you&#039;re out there, I just want to let you know that I never would have become the hunter that I am now if not for you. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try to use CC when I can, and yes, HoR is that *one instance* where you really need to learn to use it, but I haven&#8217;t found any pugs that can do it well. Blizzard has spent an entire expansion breaking the habit of CC that people just don&#8217;t know how to do it anymore. I know how to use it only because in The Burning Crusade, priests used Shackle macros in Karazhan or they didn&#8217;t go raiding.</p>
<p>As a hunter nowadays, I feel like the old lady on the porch waving her rocker at the kids on the lawn. &#8220;In my day, you CC&#8217;d or you died, there was no AOE tanking! Well, except maybe paladins but they were OP! OP I say!&#8221; I pew pew like a hunter should, but I know how to use most of my buttons (even the least used ones are off to the side of my hotbars, waiting to be clicked some day!) and Freezing Trap will always be next to Disengage.</p>
<p>I will always remember my good hunter buddy, Stoutbear the dorf Survival hunter of Burning Crusade, and his amazing ability to trap not one, not two, but THREE mobs at once, with careful use of cooldowns, timing, and pure skill of his class. Stoutbear, if you&#8217;re out there, I just want to let you know that I never would have become the hunter that I am now if not for you. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Mousie</title>
		<link>http://huntsmanslodge.com/5231/hunter-cc-dead-and-buried-or-just-comatose.htm#comment-5406</link>
		<dc:creator>Mousie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 06:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just smash my face into my keyboard. Usually works pretty well.

If we wipe, out comes the CC abilities. :)</description>
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<p>If we wipe, out comes the CC abilities. <img src='http://huntsmanslodge.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Altheaus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Altheaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have most definitely, had to get my CCing skills back up to scratch. 
It all started on day one of the new patch, everything went smooth as milkshake till with the horror that was the halls of reflection. The first time we did it we died. Horribly. Then I opened up my mouth and said &quot;hey I could freezing arrow that hunter.. hes kill shots and ice blocks you if you don&#039;t get a handle on him&quot; and then the beginning of every CC know to azerothians coming flying out of the wood work... you really had to be on your game or its  wipe fest.

Then we went into the ICC for the first time.... and my gods there wasn&#039;t just one or 2 trash mobs laying around, there was ARMIES of them. So again I&#039;m there beside the RL coming up with all the tacs we can use to tie up as many of the mobs as possible while nuking down the rest. We even started using the count down macro, used normally for final bids with DKP, to time multiple freezing arrows to hit their targets at the same time.

do you know what.... I LOVE it. It felt like coming out of a long sleep to begin with, you know that feeling your up but the lights aren&#039;t on, followed by the joy of actually doing something useful other then just shoot the red dot. I for one am glad its back in play.. no more easy ride for them epics.. learn to face the trash or die.

Good hunting fellow followers of the greater class we are back to full strength!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have most definitely, had to get my CCing skills back up to scratch.<br />
It all started on day one of the new patch, everything went smooth as milkshake till with the horror that was the halls of reflection. The first time we did it we died. Horribly. Then I opened up my mouth and said &#8220;hey I could freezing arrow that hunter.. hes kill shots and ice blocks you if you don&#8217;t get a handle on him&#8221; and then the beginning of every CC know to azerothians coming flying out of the wood work&#8230; you really had to be on your game or its  wipe fest.</p>
<p>Then we went into the ICC for the first time&#8230;. and my gods there wasn&#8217;t just one or 2 trash mobs laying around, there was ARMIES of them. So again I&#8217;m there beside the RL coming up with all the tacs we can use to tie up as many of the mobs as possible while nuking down the rest. We even started using the count down macro, used normally for final bids with DKP, to time multiple freezing arrows to hit their targets at the same time.</p>
<p>do you know what&#8230;. I LOVE it. It felt like coming out of a long sleep to begin with, you know that feeling your up but the lights aren&#8217;t on, followed by the joy of actually doing something useful other then just shoot the red dot. I for one am glad its back in play.. no more easy ride for them epics.. learn to face the trash or die.</p>
<p>Good hunting fellow followers of the greater class we are back to full strength!</p>
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		<title>By: Rades</title>
		<link>http://huntsmanslodge.com/5231/hunter-cc-dead-and-buried-or-just-comatose.htm#comment-5396</link>
		<dc:creator>Rades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 21:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also use CC a fair bit, often as precautionary measures, such as shooting a Freezing Arrow at a caster mob the tank hasn&#039;t yet pulled in, or dropped one on top of the healer. Intimidation is also nice now that it&#039;s instant-cast to interrupt spellcasts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also use CC a fair bit, often as precautionary measures, such as shooting a Freezing Arrow at a caster mob the tank hasn&#8217;t yet pulled in, or dropped one on top of the healer. Intimidation is also nice now that it&#8217;s instant-cast to interrupt spellcasts.</p>
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		<title>By: Dalaila</title>
		<link>http://huntsmanslodge.com/5231/hunter-cc-dead-and-buried-or-just-comatose.htm#comment-5394</link>
		<dc:creator>Dalaila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 21:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I try to use traps all the time, because I like it and trapping is what makes hunter &quot;shine&quot; in hard situations. Problem is... after WOTLK 90% of trash/encounters need AoE, breaking any trap trick. The new heroics added some trapping but yet again... using the LfG tool I always find overgeared people, with tanks that just go in the middle and aoe-aggro everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try to use traps all the time, because I like it and trapping is what makes hunter &#8220;shine&#8221; in hard situations. Problem is&#8230; after WOTLK 90% of trash/encounters need AoE, breaking any trap trick. The new heroics added some trapping but yet again&#8230; using the LfG tool I always find overgeared people, with tanks that just go in the middle and aoe-aggro everything.</p>
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