Comments on: The Future of Beast Mastery http://huntsmanslodge.com/2988/the-future-of-beast-mastery.htm A site for WoW Hunters :: News, Information, Resources and more Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:57:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: xavatar http://huntsmanslodge.com/2988/the-future-of-beast-mastery.htm#comment-4792 xavatar Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:13:40 +0000 http://huntsmanslodge.com/?p=2988#comment-4792 i'm geared mostly 226/232 with a few 219/213 in there and i pull 4k dps in mm, 4.2k dps in sv and 3.3k dps in bm, that is an unacceptable difference, but i still raid sometimes in bm for this reason, "buff my pet to the eyeballs" bok bom etc on me and my pet is awesome and i can pull 5k dps in raids easy without trying, maybe coz im a bm hunter at heart im good at that spec or suttin but bm is not as bad as every1 thinks, try ot the large adds in ony10 with ur pet, its easy, or round up the zombies in naxx wen ur fighting that undead dog boss (4get the name lol)u can even get those damn snobolds off peoples heads in toc-10/25 by puttin jus ur pet on em (with a few lock dots)saving more of the raids ranged dps for the boss. the fact that all hunters in my realm use the 7/57/7 mm build helps even more, tsa is a lovely buff for a bm hunter! at the end of the day all specs are viable for raiding in the right circumstances. as for pvp bm rules, period. they r too busy trying to catch u in bg/arenas to notice that ur pet is laying the smack down on em and if they target the pet all the better for you coz then u can pump some dps into em and watch while ur pet heals (bloodthirsty/mend pet) bm is also a killer spec to use on other hunters esp mm and sv as they get chased permanently by ur pet and r too busy trying to stun/freeze it to hit u giving u a few secs to kill em easy. a dps boost is definately needed but not a big 1 maybe something along the lines of a personal buff like tsa/sniper that will affect u an ur pet? well i suppose that would be wishful thinking as look how long it took for blizz to put more mail in the game (toc). i’m geared mostly 226/232 with a few 219/213 in there and i pull 4k dps in mm, 4.2k dps in sv and 3.3k dps in bm, that is an unacceptable difference, but i still raid sometimes in bm for this reason, “buff my pet to the eyeballs” bok bom etc on me and my pet is awesome and i can pull 5k dps in raids easy without trying, maybe coz im a bm hunter at heart im good at that spec or suttin but bm is not as bad as every1 thinks, try ot the large adds in ony10 with ur pet, its easy, or round up the zombies in naxx wen ur fighting that undead dog boss (4get the name lol)u can even get those damn snobolds off peoples heads in toc-10/25 by puttin jus ur pet on em (with a few lock dots)saving more of the raids ranged dps for the boss.

the fact that all hunters in my realm use the 7/57/7 mm build helps even more, tsa is a lovely buff for a bm hunter! at the end of the day all specs are viable for raiding in the right circumstances. as for pvp bm rules, period. they r too busy trying to catch u in bg/arenas to notice that ur pet is laying the smack down on em and if they target the pet all the better for you coz then u can pump some dps into em and watch while ur pet heals (bloodthirsty/mend pet) bm is also a killer spec to use on other hunters esp mm and sv as they get chased permanently by ur pet and r too busy trying to stun/freeze it to hit u giving u a few secs to kill em easy.

a dps boost is definately needed but not a big 1 maybe something along the lines of a personal buff like tsa/sniper that will affect u an ur pet? well i suppose that would be wishful thinking as look how long it took for blizz to put more mail in the game (toc).

]]> By: will http://huntsmanslodge.com/2988/the-future-of-beast-mastery.htm#comment-3500 will Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:10:53 +0000 http://huntsmanslodge.com/?p=2988#comment-3500 just an idea, i hear things like non-combat pet buffs, and having 2 pets out at once: probably not gonna happen because that would mean alot more work for blizz, so how to boost BM? Easy, have BM remave all pet CDs (except for global CD) while BW is active! imagine a constant froststorm debuf for 18 seconds or so, or web traps. Now you might go 'well blizz would say thats too op or something, blizz would never go for it. well that's what pet focus is for, plus with all these skills that pets have nowadays, they would run outa focus pretty fast. i doubt that the pet would out dps the hunter in the long run, but it would be perfect for pvp and pve boss fights. just an idea, i hear things like non-combat pet buffs, and having 2 pets out at once: probably not gonna happen because that would mean alot more work for blizz, so how to boost BM? Easy, have BM remave all pet CDs (except for global CD) while BW is active! imagine a constant froststorm debuf for 18 seconds or so, or web traps. Now you might go ‘well blizz would say thats too op or something, blizz would never go for it. well that’s what pet focus is for, plus with all these skills that pets have nowadays, they would run outa focus pretty fast. i doubt that the pet would out dps the hunter in the long run, but it would be perfect for pvp and pve boss fights.

]]> By: Guest http://huntsmanslodge.com/2988/the-future-of-beast-mastery.htm#comment-3439 Guest Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:12:35 +0000 http://huntsmanslodge.com/?p=2988#comment-3439 I have an idea for blizz, instead of exotic pets as the 51th point, make that last point somthing that lets you controll an additional pet. but recucing all damage cause by both pets by 25-50% or somthing. Or the last point could be exotic pet and extra pet talents like it is now, but give us a spell similar to a DK's army of the undead. Forests fury? Summon bunnies and bears to maul your opponent. Or, just keep buffing the pets damage. have the pet do as much or more damage then the hunter, making the pet somthing to fear in PvP and somthing to want for PvE. All just sugestions. I'll let blizz try and balance it ouy. I have an idea for blizz, instead of exotic pets as the 51th point, make that last point somthing that lets you controll an additional pet. but recucing all damage cause by both pets by 25-50% or somthing. Or the last point could be exotic pet and extra pet talents like it is now, but give us a spell similar to a DK’s army of the undead. Forests fury? Summon bunnies and bears to maul your opponent. Or, just keep buffing the pets damage. have the pet do as much or more damage then the hunter, making the pet somthing to fear in PvP and somthing to want for PvE.
All just sugestions. I’ll let blizz try and balance it ouy.

]]> By: Qonaan http://huntsmanslodge.com/2988/the-future-of-beast-mastery.htm#comment-2528 Qonaan Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:27:03 +0000 http://huntsmanslodge.com/?p=2988#comment-2528 I really think that buffing the 51pt Exotic pets is an interesting idea. They're supposed to represent a signature part of the BM tree, and as they are currently implemented, the 51pt BM pets are just sorta "enh" better than some other pet choices. I'm curious, though - why do you think the pet shouldn't be doing more damage than the Hunter? Is it a purely stylistic preference? I think buffing Arcane Shot or giving us a BM-shot ("raccoon shot" lawl) is kinda lame and reductive. As a hardcore BM hunter, I'd much rather have a huge impact from my pets. Perhaps all pet families, when led by a BM Hunter, could have an additional neato ability. Or flat-out more DPS... I really think that buffing the 51pt Exotic pets is an interesting idea. They’re supposed to represent a signature part of the BM tree, and as they are currently implemented, the 51pt BM pets are just sorta “enh” better than some other pet choices.

I’m curious, though – why do you think the pet shouldn’t be doing more damage than the Hunter? Is it a purely stylistic preference?

I think buffing Arcane Shot or giving us a BM-shot (“raccoon shot” lawl) is kinda lame and reductive.

As a hardcore BM hunter, I’d much rather have a huge impact from my pets.

Perhaps all pet families, when led by a BM Hunter, could have an additional neato ability. Or flat-out more DPS…

]]> By: Roarbeard http://huntsmanslodge.com/2988/the-future-of-beast-mastery.htm#comment-2524 Roarbeard Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:15:31 +0000 http://huntsmanslodge.com/?p=2988#comment-2524 boooooo. my finger thingy doesnt look right. :( boooooo. my finger thingy doesnt look right. :(

]]> By: Roarbeard http://huntsmanslodge.com/2988/the-future-of-beast-mastery.htm#comment-2523 Roarbeard Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:14:58 +0000 http://huntsmanslodge.com/?p=2988#comment-2523 Warsong- Hunter as druid. Yeah it would be cool, but its not a hunter. I dont want to be a devilsaur. I'm a hunter man! I control beasts like crocodile dundee. |-| |-| | | | | | |___| | /\ -----> The Dundee finger thingy. :D | / / | / |________/ I'm honestly kind of scared for BM. I really dont think they should have a "signature shot" because that isnt the style of it. Marks has a particular feel to it as does survival and bm. I think just adding a fancy shmancy shot would make bm just like everything else. Give us some variety blizz. Throw us a complete curveball of design. IT IS OKAY TO KNOCK SOMETHING OUT OF THE BALLPARK!! Arcane buff would be nice, just as long as it doesnt make it the "BM shot." How about leave marks and survival's pet control where it is, but bring a placement and stance management system to the bm tree. I think it would be neat for bm to have the ability to point and click where they want their pet to go as well as choose whether they want them to stay ranged dpsing or melee. I know you can macro it, but I think the point and click thing would be awful nifty (for pvp if not pve). Give BM a utility that is unlike any other class or spec. And I had a WHA?! moment while reading that Q&A too the other day. They said they dont want hunters to be able to steadily move while fighting for pvp. Why not? Pallies can. They said they dont want the strafing and such. Maybe its just the fps guy in me, but fast-paced in motion combat in pvp would be freaking awesome to me. I just have this imagination of a pally running around trying to catch me while i'm strafing in circle around him watching that beautiful little health bar go down and down. :D Warsong- Hunter as druid. Yeah it would be cool, but its not a hunter. I dont want to be a devilsaur. I’m a hunter man! I control beasts like crocodile dundee.
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I’m honestly kind of scared for BM. I really dont think they should have a “signature shot” because that isnt the style of it. Marks has a particular feel to it as does survival and bm. I think just adding a fancy shmancy shot would make bm just like everything else. Give us some variety blizz. Throw us a complete curveball of design. IT IS OKAY TO KNOCK SOMETHING OUT OF THE BALLPARK!! Arcane buff would be nice, just as long as it doesnt make it the “BM shot.” How about leave marks and survival’s pet control where it is, but bring a placement and stance management system to the bm tree. I think it would be neat for bm to have the ability to point and click where they want their pet to go as well as choose whether they want them to stay ranged dpsing or melee. I know you can macro it, but I think the point and click thing would be awful nifty (for pvp if not pve). Give BM a utility that is unlike any other class or spec.

And I had a WHA?! moment while reading that Q&A too the other day. They said they dont want hunters to be able to steadily move while fighting for pvp. Why not? Pallies can. They said they dont want the strafing and such. Maybe its just the fps guy in me, but fast-paced in motion combat in pvp would be freaking awesome to me. I just have this imagination of a pally running around trying to catch me while i’m strafing in circle around him watching that beautiful little health bar go down and down. :D

]]> By: Trackerbr - Warsong http://huntsmanslodge.com/2988/the-future-of-beast-mastery.htm#comment-2518 Trackerbr - Warsong Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:03:46 +0000 http://huntsmanslodge.com/?p=2988#comment-2518 I forgot too...... give us more, more, more, more slots at Stable too.... 5k for each, remove 30 min CD from Call Stable, or let the Hunter to summon his companion like a Mount, remove any CD from this Summon to 51 BM Hunters... we need to manage our pet to each encounter.... fight a Mage is different to fight a Pally I forgot too…… give us more, more, more, more slots at Stable too…. 5k for each, remove 30 min CD from Call Stable, or let the Hunter to summon his companion like a Mount, remove any CD from this Summon to 51 BM Hunters… we need to manage our pet to each encounter…. fight a Mage is different to fight a Pally

]]> By: Trackerbr - Warsong http://huntsmanslodge.com/2988/the-future-of-beast-mastery.htm#comment-2517 Trackerbr - Warsong Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:57:28 +0000 http://huntsmanslodge.com/?p=2988#comment-2517 I forgot.... make 51 Points BM tree to make Exotic Pets to give us Buffs from his Especial Attack. Ex: from Chimeras, 50% stun and Slow resistance and Frost Damage Buff; from Worms, some AmP reduce and AmP Bonus from, Spirit Beast, Arcane resistance and Arcane Bonus something like a commune, an integration from the Hunter and his companion ..... Take Eyes of the beast and forget control your pet.... change this and make a 51 BM Hunter when use this skill to become the Beast, to share stats, skills at the cost to heavly consume of mana..... Be a turtle with damage reduction, be a Devilsaur with huge attack power, be a Spirit beast with Arcane Shot buffs or 1 seg CD, be an Warp Stalker and Blink too.... make the 51 BM be his Companion with Eyes of the Beast till heavy mana drain...... I forgot…. make 51 Points BM tree to make Exotic Pets to give us Buffs from his Especial Attack. Ex:

from Chimeras, 50% stun and Slow resistance and Frost Damage Buff;

from Worms, some AmP reduce and AmP Bonus

from, Spirit Beast, Arcane resistance and Arcane Bonus

something like a commune, an integration from the Hunter and his companion ….. Take Eyes of the beast and forget control your pet…. change this and make a 51 BM Hunter when use this skill to become the Beast, to share stats, skills at the cost to heavly consume of mana….. Be a turtle with damage reduction, be a Devilsaur with huge attack power, be a Spirit beast with Arcane Shot buffs or 1 seg CD, be an Warp Stalker and Blink too…. make the 51 BM be his Companion with Eyes of the Beast till heavy mana drain……

]]> By: Trackerbr - Warsong http://huntsmanslodge.com/2988/the-future-of-beast-mastery.htm#comment-2516 Trackerbr - Warsong Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:39:57 +0000 http://huntsmanslodge.com/?p=2988#comment-2516 Well... maybe a skill to remove DOTs at the Hunter too. Remove some skills from GCD... will help a lot to macro shot rotation. Or use non-combat pets to give BM some buffs like: Health regen, Mana Regen, Attack Power Bonus, Agility Bonus, (Nature, Fire, Shadow, Poison) dmg Bonus..... like Paly Aureas, just to 51 BM Hunters, 50% white damage when moving (Just auto shot) Make Deterrence remove Stun, movements impairing effects Put the new trap types with at separate CD Make Snake Trap to entrap too Bring the fuc***ng Fauna to help us to kill DK's, Paly's, Warrior's and Rogues..... Well… maybe a skill to remove DOTs at the Hunter too.

Remove some skills from GCD… will help a lot to macro shot rotation.

Or use non-combat pets to give BM some buffs like: Health regen, Mana Regen, Attack Power Bonus, Agility Bonus, (Nature, Fire, Shadow, Poison) dmg Bonus….. like Paly Aureas, just to 51 BM Hunters,

50% white damage when moving (Just auto shot)

Make Deterrence remove Stun, movements impairing effects

Put the new trap types with at separate CD

Make Snake Trap to entrap too

Bring the fuc***ng Fauna to help us to kill DK’s, Paly’s, Warrior’s and Rogues…..

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