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		<title>By: Garwulf</title>
		<link>http://huntsmanslodge.com/1956/back-to-bm.htm#comment-1756</link>
		<dc:creator>Garwulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 09:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maerae,

Grats on 2k. We peaked at 1846, just shy of our needed rating for the s6 T1 weapons. We&#039;re still trying, but have found certain nights to be really challenging due to some difficult combos.

So far our biggest challenge has been Ret/Mage, Ret/Ret, Ret/Holy, Ret/DK and Rogue/Priest. Warlock/Priest is pretty nasty also.

My partner&#039;s still using his crafted Titansteel 2h. :( I think once he gets his mitts on the Furious Glad weapon we should be straight. Other Rets we&#039;ve faced with Betrayer or better have been absolutely brutal.

What pet is your partner using?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maerae,</p>
<p>Grats on 2k. We peaked at 1846, just shy of our needed rating for the s6 T1 weapons. We&#8217;re still trying, but have found certain nights to be really challenging due to some difficult combos.</p>
<p>So far our biggest challenge has been Ret/Mage, Ret/Ret, Ret/Holy, Ret/DK and Rogue/Priest. Warlock/Priest is pretty nasty also.</p>
<p>My partner&#8217;s still using his crafted Titansteel 2h. <img src='http://huntsmanslodge.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  I think once he gets his mitts on the Furious Glad weapon we should be straight. Other Rets we&#8217;ve faced with Betrayer or better have been absolutely brutal.</p>
<p>What pet is your partner using?</p>
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		<title>By: maerae</title>
		<link>http://huntsmanslodge.com/1956/back-to-bm.htm#comment-1755</link>
		<dc:creator>maerae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 08:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Started running this comp last week with low expectations... much to my surprise we hit 2k today!

Holy pallies/plate teams are our biggest thorn atm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Started running this comp last week with low expectations&#8230; much to my surprise we hit 2k today!</p>
<p>Holy pallies/plate teams are our biggest thorn atm.</p>
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		<title>By: raze</title>
		<link>http://huntsmanslodge.com/1956/back-to-bm.htm#comment-1582</link>
		<dc:creator>raze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 13:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garwulf,
Ah yes, that makes sense! thx for explaining it so well in layman&#039;s term.
btw, i was camping for unh&#039;loc the rare monkey today. saw him but forgot how to tame.. i.e, freez trap first etc. then I exited to do some research. when i was back in, it disappeared. grr.:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garwulf,<br />
Ah yes, that makes sense! thx for explaining it so well in layman&#8217;s term.<br />
btw, i was camping for unh&#8217;loc the rare monkey today. saw him but forgot how to tame.. i.e, freez trap first etc. then I exited to do some research. when i was back in, it disappeared. grr.:-)</p>
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		<title>By: Garwulf</title>
		<link>http://huntsmanslodge.com/1956/back-to-bm.htm#comment-1576</link>
		<dc:creator>Garwulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 00:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>raze,

Sorry about causing you to re-talent. ;)

I think Improved Tracking is great for PvE for all builds. For PvP, it&#039;s still good, but it&#039;s not as important IMO.

BM won&#039;t have the available points to spend on it for a PvP build. MM and SV could certainly put a few points in, but when I PvP&#039;ed as SV I didn&#039;t pick it up. Instead I went for the additional range with 3/3 Hawkeye and 20% crit bonus on my melee skills with 2/2 Savage Strikes.

I always begin my arenas with Track Hidden on, so that I can try to sniff out Rogues and Druids. Improved Tracking does not work vs stealthed opponents. I didn&#039;t want to mess with blowing a GCD switching to Track Humanoids so that I could get the 5% buff. Rogues and Druids are present in over half of all arena matches, so I pretty much just leave Track Hidden on at all times.

Like I said, for PvE it&#039;s definitely a staple for all builds, but for PvP it&#039;s up to the player. I think most MM and SV builds usually take 2-3 points in it. It&#039;s just a little extra free damage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>raze,</p>
<p>Sorry about causing you to re-talent. <img src='http://huntsmanslodge.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think Improved Tracking is great for PvE for all builds. For PvP, it&#8217;s still good, but it&#8217;s not as important IMO.</p>
<p>BM won&#8217;t have the available points to spend on it for a PvP build. MM and SV could certainly put a few points in, but when I PvP&#8217;ed as SV I didn&#8217;t pick it up. Instead I went for the additional range with 3/3 Hawkeye and 20% crit bonus on my melee skills with 2/2 Savage Strikes.</p>
<p>I always begin my arenas with Track Hidden on, so that I can try to sniff out Rogues and Druids. Improved Tracking does not work vs stealthed opponents. I didn&#8217;t want to mess with blowing a GCD switching to Track Humanoids so that I could get the 5% buff. Rogues and Druids are present in over half of all arena matches, so I pretty much just leave Track Hidden on at all times.</p>
<p>Like I said, for PvE it&#8217;s definitely a staple for all builds, but for PvP it&#8217;s up to the player. I think most MM and SV builds usually take 2-3 points in it. It&#8217;s just a little extra free damage.</p>
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		<title>By: raze</title>
		<link>http://huntsmanslodge.com/1956/back-to-bm.htm#comment-1571</link>
		<dc:creator>raze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 18:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve done some serious hardcore readings on your site. only a month-old wow noob who started off as a bm hunter (i kind of assumed ranged attack is easier for starters), i&#039;ve learned so much from the posts/comments. keep them coming!
everytime you changed spec, well, u made me broke. 30g is something for a noob:-)
now, as you can imagine, i changed specs again. but wuat&#039;s your thoughts on putting 5/5 improved tracking. i think i heard nice things about them. comments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve done some serious hardcore readings on your site. only a month-old wow noob who started off as a bm hunter (i kind of assumed ranged attack is easier for starters), i&#8217;ve learned so much from the posts/comments. keep them coming!<br />
everytime you changed spec, well, u made me broke. 30g is something for a noob:-)<br />
now, as you can imagine, i changed specs again. but wuat&#8217;s your thoughts on putting 5/5 improved tracking. i think i heard nice things about them. comments?</p>
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		<title>By: Dalaila</title>
		<link>http://huntsmanslodge.com/1956/back-to-bm.htm#comment-1551</link>
		<dc:creator>Dalaila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 17:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@  Garwy ;)

Well running OLD-SCHOOL instances is just fun and -I must admit- even profit. You can make some nice gold out of rare blues and some drops. I also love seeing those places that Blizzard crafted for us pre-TBC (I started playing WoW only when TBC came out) and overall I&#039;m totally mad about achievements.

The 40-man raids are still a little problematic because some bosses require specific tricks or tactics that you cannot really complete all alone :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@  Garwy <img src='http://huntsmanslodge.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Well running OLD-SCHOOL instances is just fun and -I must admit- even profit. You can make some nice gold out of rare blues and some drops. I also love seeing those places that Blizzard crafted for us pre-TBC (I started playing WoW only when TBC came out) and overall I&#8217;m totally mad about achievements.</p>
<p>The 40-man raids are still a little problematic because some bosses require specific tricks or tactics that you cannot really complete all alone <img src='http://huntsmanslodge.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Garwulf</title>
		<link>http://huntsmanslodge.com/1956/back-to-bm.htm#comment-1535</link>
		<dc:creator>Garwulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 19:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey dalaila,

I&#039;ll probably go for that same achievement somewhere down the road. It&#039;s fun to re-visit old content sometimes.

I had actually missed a lot of dungeons pre-tbc, because all I ever did for the most part was PvP, and stalk and tame rare pets of course! ;)

Once I hit 70, I went into Stratholme and Scholo because I had never been in those dungeons. Good times.
It was also fun running some low level alts from my guild through ZF. ZF was the first dungeon I had ever been in, and I remember it being so difficult at the time (I was probably level 39 then).

Once I&#039;m decked out in ilvl 226 items, I think it&#039;ll be fun to go back and clear all of the Outland instances.

Icedtrip,

I feel the same way as you do about SV and BM. SV gave me the necessary burst to drop single targets quickly, but BM makes it easier for me to manage multiple targets and still survive. This is mainly due to having 18 seconds of freedom, and a pet that can&#039;t be ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey dalaila,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll probably go for that same achievement somewhere down the road. It&#8217;s fun to re-visit old content sometimes.</p>
<p>I had actually missed a lot of dungeons pre-tbc, because all I ever did for the most part was PvP, and stalk and tame rare pets of course! <img src='http://huntsmanslodge.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Once I hit 70, I went into Stratholme and Scholo because I had never been in those dungeons. Good times.<br />
It was also fun running some low level alts from my guild through ZF. ZF was the first dungeon I had ever been in, and I remember it being so difficult at the time (I was probably level 39 then).</p>
<p>Once I&#8217;m decked out in ilvl 226 items, I think it&#8217;ll be fun to go back and clear all of the Outland instances.</p>
<p>Icedtrip,</p>
<p>I feel the same way as you do about SV and BM. SV gave me the necessary burst to drop single targets quickly, but BM makes it easier for me to manage multiple targets and still survive. This is mainly due to having 18 seconds of freedom, and a pet that can&#8217;t be ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: icedtrip</title>
		<link>http://huntsmanslodge.com/1956/back-to-bm.htm#comment-1531</link>
		<dc:creator>icedtrip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 14:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a BM hunter when it comes down to it, but switched over to SV hoping the burst damage would help me in BG&#039;s.  I don&#039;t do arena, so I can&#039;t comment on that, but all I do know is that I miss BW and a more capable pet. 

I do like the burst damage, but I have to admit, I am not so sure that I am a more capable PVP playing as SV.  I too am thinking of switching back, finish leveling my Chimaera and wrecking havoc on the BG&#039;s the way a hunter is suppose to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a BM hunter when it comes down to it, but switched over to SV hoping the burst damage would help me in BG&#8217;s.  I don&#8217;t do arena, so I can&#8217;t comment on that, but all I do know is that I miss BW and a more capable pet. </p>
<p>I do like the burst damage, but I have to admit, I am not so sure that I am a more capable PVP playing as SV.  I too am thinking of switching back, finish leveling my Chimaera and wrecking havoc on the BG&#8217;s the way a hunter is suppose to.</p>
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		<title>By: Dalaila ShadowosngEU</title>
		<link>http://huntsmanslodge.com/1956/back-to-bm.htm#comment-1527</link>
		<dc:creator>Dalaila ShadowosngEU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 09:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m using BM for achievements, in particular for the amazing  [Classic Dungeonmaster]. I must say... running a full instance and AoE everything makes you feel a God lol :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m using BM for achievements, in particular for the amazing  [Classic Dungeonmaster]. I must say&#8230; running a full instance and AoE everything makes you feel a God lol <img src='http://huntsmanslodge.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Garwulf</title>
		<link>http://huntsmanslodge.com/1956/back-to-bm.htm#comment-1509</link>
		<dc:creator>Garwulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 23:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I plan on posting and describing my builds in future at some point, but here&#039;s a link in the meantime.

This is the spec I use for my wolf as MM:

http://www.wowhead.com/?petcalc#0Md00sc00hooo

I picked up Dash to enable him to reach the fight(s) quicker. 1 point in Bloodthirsty to ensure he stays at full happiness for the full duration of the encounter. The rest are all DPS talents, or their pre-requisites.

Make sure you dismiss and then call your pet after you put the point into Wild Hunt. It&#039;s currently bugged, and will not apply until after you re-summon your pet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I plan on posting and describing my builds in future at some point, but here&#8217;s a link in the meantime.</p>
<p>This is the spec I use for my wolf as MM:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?petcalc#0Md00sc00hooo" rel="nofollow">http://www.wowhead.com/?petcalc#0Md00sc00hooo</a></p>
<p>I picked up Dash to enable him to reach the fight(s) quicker. 1 point in Bloodthirsty to ensure he stays at full happiness for the full duration of the encounter. The rest are all DPS talents, or their pre-requisites.</p>
<p>Make sure you dismiss and then call your pet after you put the point into Wild Hunt. It&#8217;s currently bugged, and will not apply until after you re-summon your pet.</p>
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