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		<title>By: Myhaircool</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myhaircool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before WotLK, I really didn&#039;t raid much at all. Now I raid a lot, and currently I am SV specced. I love being SV, although recently I seem to be doing a little less dps than I used to be able to. I&#039;m geared in mostly 25m Naxx gear and some 10m Ulduar, and right now I can only manage to do an average of about 3.8k dps in raids, maxing out around 5k. I&#039;m thinking about switching to MM spec for a little while to try it out because I think my average dps should be a little higher.

As far as I know, BM is currently not a viable raid spec if you&#039;re looking to top out the dps meters. However, with the coming 3.2 patch, pets are supposed to get a little bit better, and from what I&#039;ve seen of T9 gear, it may be more compatible with a BM spec. So if you&#039;re looking to be BM  for raiding, maybe it will become a good spec in the coming patch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before WotLK, I really didn&#8217;t raid much at all. Now I raid a lot, and currently I am SV specced. I love being SV, although recently I seem to be doing a little less dps than I used to be able to. I&#8217;m geared in mostly 25m Naxx gear and some 10m Ulduar, and right now I can only manage to do an average of about 3.8k dps in raids, maxing out around 5k. I&#8217;m thinking about switching to MM spec for a little while to try it out because I think my average dps should be a little higher.</p>
<p>As far as I know, BM is currently not a viable raid spec if you&#8217;re looking to top out the dps meters. However, with the coming 3.2 patch, pets are supposed to get a little bit better, and from what I&#8217;ve seen of T9 gear, it may be more compatible with a BM spec. So if you&#8217;re looking to be BM  for raiding, maybe it will become a good spec in the coming patch.</p>
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		<title>By: Garwulf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garwulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 09:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember those days well Artur. Sigh...

I just wish they&#039;d buff BM a little. I don&#039;t even ask that they make it a top dps spec again. Heck, a 10% buff and I&#039;d probably dual spec BM.

I raid as MM now, but if BM were to see some love in future, I&#039;d be a full-time Beast Master and lovin&#039; it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember those days well Artur. Sigh&#8230;</p>
<p>I just wish they&#8217;d buff BM a little. I don&#8217;t even ask that they make it a top dps spec again. Heck, a 10% buff and I&#8217;d probably dual spec BM.</p>
<p>I raid as MM now, but if BM were to see some love in future, I&#8217;d be a full-time Beast Master and lovin&#8217; it.</p>
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		<title>By: Artur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 06:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I must say I was BM spec about a year ago and I was a raider in the end-game content of the time and I out dps&#039;ed every other hunter that I ran into that wasn&#039;t BM spec&#039;ed by LARGE margins. 

I must say I don&#039;t like the changes to the tree now that I have returned and SV spec always annoyed the hell outta me and MM was just too broad.

I wait patiently hoping that BM will be restored to it&#039;s former glory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I must say I was BM spec about a year ago and I was a raider in the end-game content of the time and I out dps&#8217;ed every other hunter that I ran into that wasn&#8217;t BM spec&#8217;ed by LARGE margins. </p>
<p>I must say I don&#8217;t like the changes to the tree now that I have returned and SV spec always annoyed the hell outta me and MM was just too broad.</p>
<p>I wait patiently hoping that BM will be restored to it&#8217;s former glory.</p>
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		<title>By: Garwulf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garwulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 01:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>320AP buff for 20 seconds out of every 40, or 28 if you&#039;re BM.

http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=64495</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>320AP buff for 20 seconds out of every 40, or 28 if you&#8217;re BM.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=64495" rel="nofollow">http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=64495</a></p>
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		<title>By: Norridor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norridor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 05:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why use a wolf? is there something special?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why use a wolf? is there something special?</p>
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		<title>By: Lyonidah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyonidah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 22:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly will and thank you a bunch for your links. So cats are no longer the going pets for good raid dps? I have been using a cat for the longest time, but I have no problem going and grabbing up a wolf if that will be a better dps pet for me. I am glad to hear that I can keep my beloved spec and hope that the changes will boost me a bit. Thanks again for the info and I will slap up a post and let you know how the changes work out for me :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly will and thank you a bunch for your links. So cats are no longer the going pets for good raid dps? I have been using a cat for the longest time, but I have no problem going and grabbing up a wolf if that will be a better dps pet for me. I am glad to hear that I can keep my beloved spec and hope that the changes will boost me a bit. Thanks again for the info and I will slap up a post and let you know how the changes work out for me <img src='http://huntsmanslodge.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Garwulf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garwulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lyonidah,

Here&#039;s what I recommend.

If you really like BM, then consider altering your build a little. BM can still be pretty competitive, but you&#039;ll need to adjust your talents and possibly re-gem/re-enchant if you want to see huge gains.

The good news is, if you wish to try this, your spec has loads of room for improvement.

Try this:

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#ctbMzxgRfu0estMems:VibM0z

This spec will put you right at the hit cap, instead of over like you are now. If this spec doesn&#039;t greatly increase your DPS, I&#039;ll be very surprised. Make sure you use the same glyphs I included in the build. I would swap out your bracer enchant for: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44484, and change your meta gem to: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41398.

Shot priority is:

Kill Shot &gt; Arcane &gt; Multi &gt; Steady Shot

...while keeping Serpent Sting up the entire fight. If mana regen is a problem, just drop Multi from the rotation.

Use a wolf if you aren&#039;t already.

Let me know how it works out. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lyonidah,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what I recommend.</p>
<p>If you really like BM, then consider altering your build a little. BM can still be pretty competitive, but you&#8217;ll need to adjust your talents and possibly re-gem/re-enchant if you want to see huge gains.</p>
<p>The good news is, if you wish to try this, your spec has loads of room for improvement.</p>
<p>Try this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#ctbMzxgRfu0estMems:VibM0z" rel="nofollow">http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#ctbMzxgRfu0estMems:VibM0z</a></p>
<p>This spec will put you right at the hit cap, instead of over like you are now. If this spec doesn&#8217;t greatly increase your DPS, I&#8217;ll be very surprised. Make sure you use the same glyphs I included in the build. I would swap out your bracer enchant for: <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44484" rel="nofollow">http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44484</a>, and change your meta gem to: <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41398" rel="nofollow">http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41398</a>.</p>
<p>Shot priority is:</p>
<p>Kill Shot > Arcane > Multi > Steady Shot</p>
<p>&#8230;while keeping Serpent Sting up the entire fight. If mana regen is a problem, just drop Multi from the rotation.</p>
<p>Use a wolf if you aren&#8217;t already.</p>
<p>Let me know how it works out. <img src='http://huntsmanslodge.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lyonidah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyonidah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the risk of sounding extremely noobish, I have a few questions I&#039;d like to ask you guys if I may. I have been playing my hunter for a hair over a year and have been mainly BM during that time. I have toyed once or twice with MM and SV but have always particularly liked BM. However, I must conceed that since the patch, I have been getting low dps. Now first off, my hunter is not fully epic&#039;d, she has a mostly badge and crafted items with a few naxx pieces, her valor hands and a few 80 blues. I guess my question is, for one, is BM really not a viable spec for raiding anymore?? and for two, if I choose to change...which would be a better option MM or SV...I&#039;ve never been fond of MM and am leaning towards survival personally, but I wanted to get a few opinions before I decided. I know the choice between MM and SV mainly boils down to personal preference and play style, I just wanted a few honest opinions from hunters that were not BM bashers. Here is the link to my armory so if you would like, you can try to help me out a bit. I really hate to give up BM as I have thoroughly enjoyed it, but I want my hunter to be the best that she can be so it seems as though a change may be in order :(

 http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Aerie+Peak&amp;n=Lyonidah  

Thanks a bunch in advance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of sounding extremely noobish, I have a few questions I&#8217;d like to ask you guys if I may. I have been playing my hunter for a hair over a year and have been mainly BM during that time. I have toyed once or twice with MM and SV but have always particularly liked BM. However, I must conceed that since the patch, I have been getting low dps. Now first off, my hunter is not fully epic&#8217;d, she has a mostly badge and crafted items with a few naxx pieces, her valor hands and a few 80 blues. I guess my question is, for one, is BM really not a viable spec for raiding anymore?? and for two, if I choose to change&#8230;which would be a better option MM or SV&#8230;I&#8217;ve never been fond of MM and am leaning towards survival personally, but I wanted to get a few opinions before I decided. I know the choice between MM and SV mainly boils down to personal preference and play style, I just wanted a few honest opinions from hunters that were not BM bashers. Here is the link to my armory so if you would like, you can try to help me out a bit. I really hate to give up BM as I have thoroughly enjoyed it, but I want my hunter to be the best that she can be so it seems as though a change may be in order <img src='http://huntsmanslodge.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p> <a href="http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Aerie+Peak&amp;n=Lyonidah" rel="nofollow">http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Aerie+Peak&amp;n=Lyonidah</a>  </p>
<p>Thanks a bunch in advance</p>
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		<title>By: Tsetsê</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tsetsê</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, IHM is a controversial decision, but with all my testing, it produces better DPS than Barrage.  I&#039;m currently trying out an 11/53/7 spec that seems to give me a small DPS boost over the 7/57/7 spec.  Not that that&#039;s any big surprise, 11 points in beast mastery has proven that it&#039;s worth the 3 wasted points.

In reality, though, only one of those points is truly wasted.  Pets go down a lot in raids and getting them back up quickly is an overall DPS gain.

Whatever, like I said before.  I truly love the MM tree and I intend to be the best MM hunter I can be rather than a mediocre SV hunter.

Tsetsê</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, IHM is a controversial decision, but with all my testing, it produces better DPS than Barrage.  I&#8217;m currently trying out an 11/53/7 spec that seems to give me a small DPS boost over the 7/57/7 spec.  Not that that&#8217;s any big surprise, 11 points in beast mastery has proven that it&#8217;s worth the 3 wasted points.</p>
<p>In reality, though, only one of those points is truly wasted.  Pets go down a lot in raids and getting them back up quickly is an overall DPS gain.</p>
<p>Whatever, like I said before.  I truly love the MM tree and I intend to be the best MM hunter I can be rather than a mediocre SV hunter.</p>
<p>Tsetsê</p>
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		<title>By: Garwulf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garwulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your insight into the MM spec, and for the well thought out comment. Your DPS vs. Patchwerk in said gear proves you know a thing or two.

I guess it boils down to play style and preference really. Some people like to post meters for the raid, and others for the boss.

I&#039;m of the belief that trash will die no matter what, but it&#039;s during the boss fights when you need every bit of firepower. Your post got me thinking a little. Especially Improved Hunter&#039;s Mark..?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your insight into the MM spec, and for the well thought out comment. Your DPS vs. Patchwerk in said gear proves you know a thing or two.</p>
<p>I guess it boils down to play style and preference really. Some people like to post meters for the raid, and others for the boss.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m of the belief that trash will die no matter what, but it&#8217;s during the boss fights when you need every bit of firepower. Your post got me thinking a little. Especially Improved Hunter&#8217;s Mark..?!</p>
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